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stoian
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To Colin and his Team!

Do you think that mathematicians (a discipline supposed to be called as a "master of science") are really interested to help mankind, to correctly solve problems in many different aspects of life, like searching for the right (very probable, accurate, therefore stable in time=normal) patterns or forms on a chart?
I would dare to say it is - what a pity - not the case, and i also have the proof for this, and you can also verify me very easy.
You can find the proof in the many books or manuals for the discipline called Mathematical Analyse (about the analyse of mathematical functions, as the source for patterns, models and forms to be seen and ment as "a hand of help" on a chart, when looking to do FORECASTS) from very different editions and authors.
Can you all come beside me, and ask together the mathematicians to explain us, why are they teaching us a terrible FAKE=FALSE?
Everywhere on each book or manual is written "black on white", that the logarithmical function were the INVERSE function of the exponential function, and vice versa.
The TRUTH is, that the logarithmical function is the OPPOSITE function of the exponential one, and vice versa. Both functions are called and are indeed ONLY functions of GROWTH, and these two functions ARE BOTH ONLY GROWING, HAVE A SIMULTANEOUS GROWTH IN TIME.
Therefore, each one CANNOT BE THE INVERSE of the other, because INVERSE means only that: when one of the functions is growing in time, the other function is descending in time, and vice versa, AND THAT IS NOT THE TRUE CASE FOR THE TWO MENTIONED FUNCTIONS.
Try yourself, to TRANSFORM an exponential function (or evolution for the string=series of mean values) in a logarithmical evolution (through the extraction of the logarithm from the exponential function=evolution, called the logarithmation procedure) AND YOU WILL SEE, YOU WILL OBTAIN ONLY A STRIGHT ASCENDING LINE OR AN ONLY ASCENDING CURVE, AND NOT A DESCENDING LINE OR CURVE, like the mathematicians teaching us we should obtain.
So, the correct definition and approach was not given us from the people of "SCIENCE".
The correct approach and expression is OPPOSITE, instead of INVERSE.
My dear freemasonry! How many other FAKES=FALSE TEACHINGS like this are on earth?
"Forgive them father, because they don`t know what they are doing!"
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Doru Stoian


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kruupy
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Stoian,

once again you have managed to write a paragraph in such a way that doesnt make any sense to me, congrats!

Now I dont profess my self to be a mathematician how ever the following quote bewilders me:

[quote]because INVERSE means only that: when one of the functions is growing in time, the other function is descending in time, and vice versa[/quote]

now the inverse of a function, as far as I know is not this at all!!. The inverse of a functions is a copy of the given function reflected over the y=x line, ie the 'y' and the 'x' "swap".

The inverse of a y=x^2 [0,infinity] is not descending at all as you state, but is actually ascending!

Furthermore you say:

[quote]Try yourself, to TRANSFORM an exponential function (or evolution for the string=series of mean values) in a logarithmical evolution (through the extraction of the logarithm from the exponential function=evolution[/quote]

well once again I am no mathematical however I do know that:

y = e^x
therefore the inverse is:
y = ln x

so Ive just found the inverse of an exponential function, it doesnt seem to me to be a lie at all, i know that it is the truth because I can render it and compare the two over a y=x line.

And hence, I fail to understand what you are talking about, I think perhaps it may be wise that if you do not truly understand the idea of mathematics you shouldnt really "bag" it in the first place, maths has brought the world many great things to improve society in "exponential" ways and it is such a shame that you cannot see and appreciate this.

From Kruupy.


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julles
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Dear Doru Stoian please please please brush up on your spelling before you judge others.

And he Said ... Come to the Water and Stand by my side, I know you are Thirsty you won't be denied. I felt every tear drop while in darkness you cried. And let me remind you it is for those tears I died.


Take it easy son of son's ... this forum isn't about dictating to anyone on HOW they should chart or why.
It is for people who are in the habit of educating themselves. Broad minded folk.


I apologize if I've taken your statement/feeling out of context and I mean no offence to you personally at all,
People are different , that is the challenge.

Take it easy.


Julles


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stoian
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Thank you Julles for your honest position.
At least you are very honest, not like Kruupy.
He is trying to convince me, he were only an AMORAL person (indifferent in face of principles) and not an IMMORAL one (who fights against principles, corrupt).
If you are counting that are only three types of human behaviour that are existing: the MORAL one, the AMORAL and the IMMORAL, you can see very quickly, that MAD can be for two (and was until the present) of three times=most powerful like GOOD.
Don`t care about me. I take it so easy like i can support it. I only try to tip the scales and i thought some of you will come to help me.
I thank you all for your kindness.
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Doru Stoian







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stoian
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Dear Kruupy,

If you are not good enough in math, maybe you will be stronger enough for this logic.
If you stay in front of a mirror, that is not calling you stay INVERSE, but OPPOSITE.
But instead of this, if you see on the same mirror your overturned image, this time means you are INVERSE indeed.
Indeed, the OVERTURNING=MANIPULATION of SCIENCE against TRUTH, is the reason for my restlessness=fear=anxiety.
Regards,
Doru Stoian

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