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   captain_chaza
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Username: captain_chaza Post Number: 1597 Registered: 02-2003Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 03:23 pm: |
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Phew! Crikey! That was a scary day! At least we weathered the storm for the moment anyway, hey? That bout of profit taking was totally unexpected !! Probably just a simple Contrarian fund manager with nothing better to do with other peoples money? 'Stopped me dead in my tacks in the afternoon Salute and Good Health
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"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C. "I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate." Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893 "There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897
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   msparks
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Username: msparks Post Number: 291 Registered: 10-2004Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 09:27 pm: |
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"God Bless America" and "heaven help the printer mechanic who cannot keep the machine up and running 24 / 7 " I was sure the inflation figures were low ! Are we being told porkies by the financially responsible government running our country ? Nothing like a change of "Greenspan" to clean out the cupboard, happens every time a new CEO walks into a company so ........... PS Mr Archer What happens to realestate when paper is worth less ? What should we do to apart from buy gold,gold,gold ? Are cars going to be cheaper ? or do we buy old cars
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   hilarius
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Username: hilarius Post Number: 1464 Registered: 04-2004Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 09:51 pm: |
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There will be plenty of jobs in empty factories for people willing to work for less than Chinese or Indian wages This is not a racist point of view ... I admire those countries which are pulling themselves out of poverty by their shoestrings It's called globalisation and we ain't seen nothing yet No one owes the "rich" nations a living, but our role as raw material supplier may keep us going for a while Hilarius
I come in peace to share my thoughts and to shine my candle light on possible long term opportunities
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   archer
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Username: archer Post Number: 1261 Registered: 11-2002Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 01:03 pm: |
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msparks Just about everything rises BECAUSE money is worth less Look at the realestate market since gold started its rise This inflationary period could last anywhere from 2-20 years and when it ends you want to be holding something that can be easily sold-anything liquid Gold and silver are very liquid Collectables and antiques are quite liquid Artworks a little less so Cars less again Houses-NOT liquid
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   hilarius
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Username: hilarius Post Number: 1468 Registered: 04-2004Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 01:16 pm: |
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Dear Archer Despite rising oil costs the world is awash with productive capacity and productivity improvements Many goods are cheaper in real terms Service provision is more competitive than ever Chance of significant inflation is close to zero Blessings and Peace Hilarius
I come in peace to share my thoughts and to shine my candle light on possible long term opportunities
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   archer
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Username: archer Post Number: 1262 Registered: 11-2002Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 02:08 pm: |
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"Chance of significant inflation is close to zero" Then im even further ahead with my PM holdings as i dont have to subtract inflation
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   msparks
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Username: msparks Post Number: 293 Registered: 10-2004Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 03:51 pm: |
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Hi H Perhaps you could define the term inflation? As i said earlier the government tells me the inflation rate is low. Why has my house doubled in price,and materials to renovate my house have near doubled,labour for tradesman have near doubled,and my rates,energy and water costs have increased by large percentages.(oh,did i mention education costs,childcare,medical) Sure, i can buy some cheap stuff at the $2 shop but do i really need this junk. Archer say's all i need is gold and silver. What do you say H ? By the way H Your post Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:51 pm Really not impressed with the comments. Seems populate or perish is the way. Prefer the old way, divide and conquer myself. The environment would sure benefit from the latter. And if that is too deep "you don't feed the enemy so they can grow big and strong and eat you"(DUH) and "if ya stink up your own nest, don't try and come and live in mine" OK Politically and morally suicide, but hey, its the truth RIGHT! Globalisation sucks !!! we just don't know it yet !!!
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   brand
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Username: brand Post Number: 19 Registered: 09-2005Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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M-3 has been launched into outer space, up another $56.3 billion last week, up $92.4 billion over the past two. This is some real horsepower. Over six weeks, the meaningless figure, ahem, is up $177.8 billion. These annualized growth rates are 28.7 percent, 23.6 percent, and 15.3 percent respectively. Those are the seasonally adjusted figures. The raw, non-seasonally adjusted, figure is up $293.3 billion over the past 12 weeks, on a pace to add 1.2 trillion in money to the economy. Wow. There must be a need for this. Maybe the master Planners see a coming need to monetize our debt? To support markets? They tell us the economy is good, so clearly they cannot be stimulating our way out of a recession. There's a lot of money flooding the economy and it has to go somewhere. Right now it is lifting markets.
I CAN RESIST ANYTHING BUT TEMPTATION.
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   archer
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Username: archer Post Number: 1264 Registered: 11-2002Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 09:32 pm: |
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The 50 percent principle http://www.321gold.com/editorials/russell/russell011206.html With Gold Over $500 http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north424.html
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   justice
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Username: justice Post Number: 431 Registered: 01-2003Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 10:28 pm: |
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Just adding fuel to the fire. According to stockcharts.com the 1 Jan 1980 high was $875
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... d'ICE ... :-)
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   archer
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Username: archer Post Number: 1266 Registered: 11-2002Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Friday, January 13, 2006 - 07:47 am: |
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"The world is caught in a miasma of inflation brought on by politically-motivated central banks that can create so-called ‘money’ at will and in any amounts. It’s world ‘prosperity’ created by synthetic means. The means are grounded in the ability of central banks to create endless quantities of paper money. It’s money that so far, is accepted by the people of the world, but the skeptics, the people who ‘have been here before’ are opting for gold. The great gold bull market is just beginning. And as I’ve repeated so many times, gold today is selling like dirt – in terms of the amount of paper money that’s being created, ‘they’re giving real money away." Richard Russell -------------- "We know that a rise of interest rates alone can not stop the depreciation of an unbacked fiat currency if it is produced in quantities that greatly exceed the growth of GDP." Adrian Douglas -------------- "Fiat money is basically ‘garbage money,’ and it’s man-made and unreliable. The smartest of the crowd realize that fiat money is ultimately doomed." Richard Russell ------------- "When paper money is being printed at an extreme rate, gold becomes more significant as a reserve currency…It starts to show up in people’s portfolios, and in governments." Frank Holmes --------------
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   hilarius
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Username: hilarius Post Number: 1476 Registered: 04-2004Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Friday, January 13, 2006 - 09:36 am: |
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Good Morning I've never seen inflation lower than it is today Central banks are ready to apply the interest rate brakes whenever needed Cars, electronic goods, air flights, luxury holidays are in enormous over-supply and falling prices in real times Oil is the only bad apple in the barrel, but uranium and renewable energy will fix that Cheaper goods pouring in from Asia ... prices falling by the minute Blessings and Peace Hilarius
I come in peace to share my thoughts and to shine my candle light on possible long term opportunities
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   glenn
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Username: glenn Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2005Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Friday, January 13, 2006 - 10:35 am: |
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Hilarius, I'd consider all of the examples provided as being luxury or non-essential items. What about energy costs? Housing costs? The cost to build them? Transportation? Oil obviously causes issues here Healthcare? Education? Hopefully some will find the following an interesting read: http://www.vinnies.org.au/files/NATIONAL.spip2.doc.pdf
Smrt-trader
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   hilarius
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Username: hilarius Post Number: 1477 Registered: 04-2004Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Friday, January 13, 2006 - 10:49 am: |
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Hi Glenn In the cases you mention price gouging and profiteering have a lot to do with the price of outputs, especially as the cost of inputs is relatively steady or falling If reported inflation remains low in the face of these price (not cost) pressures that is a testament to the wider deflationary conditions in the economy Worldwide joblessness and underutilised productive capacity will drive prices down not up, and if that is not enough the flood of cheap goods from Asia will fuel deflation Especially if the USA debt bubble bursts With Best Wishes Hilarius
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   archer
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Username: archer Post Number: 1269 Registered: 11-2002Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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