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riz

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Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 09:39 pm:

Hi their, it would be nice if you could add the ability to draw fibonacci lines, or at least support resistance fibonacci lines in your software. I feel this would be pretty easy as it just a matter of working out the percentages from the two point chosen by the user.

thanks..

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Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 04:04 pm:

Riz,

Thanks for the suggestion - it is on our ToDo list.

Robin

Only $12 (USD) per month

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Monday, July 07, 2003 - 02:08 am:

Thats awesome robin, i cann't wait for it to happen.. Im not sure how possible my next suggestion is, but is also like to suggest, some form of elliot wave theory into the charts. some time of wave counter. that would be great.

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Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 02:30 pm:

riz

Elliot wave is further than we can go with the present development.

Colin

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Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 08:44 am:

Colin,

Can you please inform us of the time frame for the fibonacci lines to be implemented. Many thanks as I am very keen to apply this indicator.

Polo

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Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 09:39 pm:

Polo

I can't give a definite ETA. There are too many other items to be completed first.

Colin

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Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:28 pm:

Colin,
What's the latest on fib levels tool?

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Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 05:58 pm:

Hi p15723 et al,

In my research over the weekend I came across and intersesting chart overlay tool.
Free trial for 14 days then $79.95 USD for license.
Has full Fibonnacci, Gann Fans, time overlays, action/reaction lines and Andrews Pitchfork plus more.
Works very well over IC and covers the tools that seem regularly requested.
So for $270 for IC plus around $100 for chart over lays you have a pretty comprehensive package with no data down loads for less than a losing trade ( much less in my case).

Now I must stress that I am only playing with the trial and cannot speak for back up service etc should things go wrong if you buy the license, which is a oncer not a per annum.

any one use or trialled?

(Message edited by colin_twiggs on August 09, 2007)

cheers

debono

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Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 01:36 pm:

p75213

We are making progress with our To Do list but it is a long list (and growing longer by the day). I cannot even estimate when Fibonacci levels will be done - there are too many other variables.

Apologies for the vague answer.

Colin

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Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 09:40 pm:

Hi Debono
Is the link you posted (www.omnimsoftware.com)correct as it keeps returning page can not be displayed?
steve

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Monday, February 02, 2004 - 08:47 pm:

Try again...

www.omniumsoftware.com

cheers

debono

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Friday, November 12, 2004 - 12:20 am:

Hi Colin and Robin,

Don't hate me cause I just have to ask again. What's the latest on fibonacci lines/retracements. It's one I have been waiting for since 2002.

http://forum.incrediblecharts.com/messages/24/178.html#POST2405

Please Please Please tell me you will be working on them soon.

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Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 11:52 am:

TBreak

Our schedule looks something like this:
(1)US intra-day, forex and commodities - new server setup
(2)Stock Screens
(3)Fibonacci and indicators.

It should not be too much longer.

Regards
Colin

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Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:17 pm:

Thank you Colin,

You and Robin do a great job. I have enjoyed how IC keeps getting better and better since I first found IC.

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Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 02:48 am:

Hi Colin;

On November 17th 2004, you posted this reply:

Our schedule looks something like this:
(1)US intra-day, forex and commodities - new server setup
(2)Stock Screens
(3)Fibonacci and indicators.

Have you completed this schedule? I'm interested in Forex charts.

Robin

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Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 10:50 am:

Robin,

We have made progress on all but completed none. Which is why we have decided to focus our energies first on the charts (over which we have more control) and then on new data feeds.

Regards,
Colin

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Friday, October 07, 2005 - 03:25 am:

Colin
Please can we have the fibonacci experience while perusing your wonderful charts.

Even which bank has them.

If you have evidence that fibonacci is a load of unowhat fine, just let us know and i won't ask again.
It gets pretty tricky when you have the calculator out trying to work out where the 50% level is !!! and whats more is, the silly little number things seem to work.

stoian

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Friday, October 07, 2005 - 04:11 am:

msparks,

I have voted you with five stars, because you are on the right way if you insist to have such indicators like the Fibonacci`s support and resistence is.
But pay a great attention also on the following thing: HOW REPRESENTATIVE (FOR THE WHOLE PAST AND THE WHOLE FUTURE) WOULD BE YOUR VOLUME OF SELECTION=VOLUME OF OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE DAILY PRICE. To do this you need to establish and use a treshold or a limit for the significance of your selection (with the reason to see=verify IF YOUR SELECTION CAN BE CONSIDERED INDEED AS A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE FOR THE WHOLE POPULATION OF PAST AND FUTURE OBSERVATIONS).
Please try hard to understand this concepts and see the difference between each concept in part:
- the volume of the selection (observations about the daily price);
- the volume of the sample (also, observations about the daily price). The volume of the sample is (or should be ever)bigger as the volume of the selection (or great enough, so that his structure about the price levels should be at most appropriate to the structure about the price levels for the whole population);
- the volume of the whole population (also, observations about the daily price, not only for the past but also those observations for the future=the forecasted observation, in case that you have made some forecasts).

You understand yet, why the length in time=the volume of observations about the daily price levels is so important?
Answer, because if the selection is not a sample (or else said: THE SELECTION IS NOT GOOD=BIG ENOUGH TO BE A SAMPLE=TO HAVE THE SAME STRUCTURE FOR THE LEVELS OF PRICE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE WHOLE POPULATION) than THE DETERMINED FIBONACCI`S SUPPORT AND RESISTENCE are not THE MOSTLY ACCURATE THAT CAN EXIST=they will give you=show you wrong places for the entry=exit signals, a TO FAST, OR a TO SLOW entry or exit.
So you have to ask Colin and Robin for much more as only about the Fibonacci retracements.
Regards,
Doru Stoian

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Friday, October 07, 2005 - 08:36 am:

msparks,

Fibonacci is on our priority list.

Regards,
Colin

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Friday, October 07, 2005 - 07:57 pm:

Dear Colin,
Dear Msparks,

Please, see this not renewed but muc more probably forecast for the evolution of the forex market title EUR-USD (made by me earlier for many times).
To apply with the greatest succes THE FIBONACCI`S METHOD when you are searching INDEED THE RIGHT INTERVAL OF PROBABILITY FOR THE FUTURE=FORECASTED PRICE LEVELS you should take into account THE REPRESENTATIVITY OF YOUR SELECTION SOTHAT THE SELECTION BECOMES A TRUE SAMPLE OF THE WHOLE POPULATION (with other words, your selection must be increased by her volume, so that to give to this new volume the chance to become a SAMPLE OF THE WHOLE POPULATION, and if you don`t make this, you WILL EVEN LOSE - OR YOU WILL USE A FALSE STRUCTURE FOR THE PRICE LEVELS WHICH IS NOT THE SAME WITH - THE STRUCTURE OF THE WHOLE POPULATION)like i have already for many times insisted to say TO YOU.
Please, enjoy my forecast, because Germany will be OK on Sunday and with this the whole EUROPEAN UNION and in short time the EUR will be more powerfull against the others currencyes, especially against the USD.
You can also see, that on the past evolution it was a period for a weaker EUR, but this period will be gone quickly.

Regards,
Doru Stoian

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Monday, October 17, 2005 - 04:44 pm:

Hi,
jumping on the band wagon for Fib levels price and time.
I really like IC but need these tools...
I am looking around for this.
Are there any recommendations?
Also whatever happened to world indexes????
Cheers

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Monday, October 17, 2005 - 06:52 pm:

Joni,
We will do our best to deliver this before the end of the year.

Regards
Colin

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 03:42 pm:

Any Update on this one..??

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 04:53 pm:

Stocky,

We are making progress, but slowly. My best guess is about 4 weeks to completion ...... I think I said that more than a month ago. Programming is painstakingly slow, laborious work.

Regards,
Colin

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 12:00 pm:

Fibonacci will be a great help. Looking forward to it. Until then if anyone has the Excel spreadsheet formulas that would be cool.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 02:38 pm:

Hi Pasminco..

Not too sure if this will help or it's what you meant...

It's heaps basic but does the job...

fibbo.xls (14.3 k)

Cheers.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 - 02:14 pm:

Hi Colin and Robin,

How is the progress going with Fibonacci ?

many thanks

cheers

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when you lose,don't lose the lesson.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 - 02:21 pm:

Stickman,
Slow progress at present, but we are addressing this.

Regards, Colin

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Monday, June 26, 2006 - 05:50 pm:

Thanks Colin

like many others i look forward to this added feature

cheers

sm

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 05:27 pm:

I have just signed up (again)for the premium version as I'm not employed full-time at present and I would like to add my voice to the growing chorus of chartists who would like to overlay your charts with Fibonacci levels.

Cheers, Max

PS Hoping it will be any day now.

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Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 01:29 pm:

I'm also looking forward to overlay the charts with Fibonacci levels

Many thanks in advance

Juergen

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Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 08:35 pm:

jeez Colin they asking the world, they dont understand if u only get bread delivered 3 days a week u cant have fresh bread every day unless they PAY TOP $$$$ cheeers Q

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Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 11:02 am:

We are working on Fibonacci Tools at present. Robin has already completed enhanced trendline tools (including autofit trendlines, linear regression and trend channels) which I am busy testing before their release in a beta version. This is taking longer than expected, but our emphasis has to be on quality/accuracy rather than speed of delivery.

Regards, Colin

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Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:00 am:

Colin, this is great news! Please keep Andrews pitchforks in mind as well.

Thanks

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Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:33 pm:

Colin - Just a thought ...

Is it possible to have support/resistance lines built-in to a charting package like IC?

It occurred to me that this would be a significant feature, especially if long and short term s/r lines were able to be toggled, or super-imposed.

Keep Smiling

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Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 03:54 pm:

Colin,

regarding my post above. Please let me know if you require any information concerning the construction and use of Andrews Pitchforks and Action/Reaction Lines so that I can send you a copy of the book Trend Line Methods of Alan Andrews in PDF format.

Regards

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Monday, August 14, 2006 - 05:40 pm:

Thanks 007,

Is it a free PDF? We have to ensure that we do not breach copyright.

Regards,
Colin

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Monday, August 14, 2006 - 08:21 pm:

Hi Colin,

Is it free?

No, not free. Last time I checked it was selling at Amazon.com for US$55.00.

We have to ensure that we do not breach copyright.

Are you referring to the construction and use of pitchforks on IC Charts, or posting of the PDF on the forum?

If you're referring to the latter, no problem. I'll send you the PDF via email as a gift. But if you're referring to the construction and use of pitchforks I wouldn’t know if there's a copyright on these. A few others like the Nielsen Supply and Demand Indicator and PHI-Ellipses are protected by copyright, but as far as I know there's no copyright on the construction/use of pitchforks. The book, however, is protected by copyright so the reproduction of any of its content for use on the forum would be prohibited.

If you can provide me with an IC email address that accepts attachments I'll send the PDF as an attachment and let you decide what to do with it. Again, just to give you an idea of how median lines are used and the forks constructed.

Regards

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Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 05:29 pm:

Can we expect to see fibonacci tools in the final version 5.0 ?

Regards

Juergen

(Message edited by jsandso on December 24, 2006)

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Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 05:38 pm:

Juergen,
Yes. Fibonacci tools will be in the final version. The new trendlines are the foundation stones for Fibonacci.

We will endeavor to bring out the full version 5.0 as early as possible in 2007.

Regards,
Colin

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Friday, December 29, 2006 - 04:27 am:

What time frame are we talking for Fib retracements etc. Colin.2007 could mean a year away.

I also have to say we were told Fib lines would be here shortly at least a year ago.

Not trying to be difficult but for those of us that use Elliot wave/Fib it is frustrating.

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Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 07:55 am:

Wiz,

I can understand your frustration. We had to re-build a major portion of our software so that we can extend the drawing tools. This is now in place.

We first have to obtain feedback from the preview, fixing any bugs that may be revealed and ensuring that we have a solid foundation, before we progress with the second level (Fibonacci). I cannot give a definite date (there are still to many unknowns) but we will endeavor to release the full version 5.0 as soon as possible in 2007.

Regards,
Colin

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Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 09:38 am:

Yo Colin, have a day off m8, u deserve it, regards for 2007 to u and Robin and team

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 03:24 am:

Hi all,

Are You sure?
We haven`t to worry about?
Fibonacci is really sugar-free?

I mean about THE EVOLUTION OF THE MEAN IN TIME!

If You allow me to say it, instead of the FIBONACCI`S PROBABILITY FIELD, you should better draw THE FIELD OF THE GAUSSIAN PROBABILITIES on your charts.

Because you should not follow THE PATTERNS WHICH ARE EXISTING INDEED AS UNIQUE MODELS IN PART, BUT CERTAINLY THEY ARE NOT REPEATING THE SAME SEQUENCE AS YOU ARE EXPECTING, and therefore they are remaining ONLY ILLUSORY PATTERNS!

Colin, i am very sure that You are already know (an you can also apply it) the Central Limit Theorem of Leapunov, that shows: ANY KIND - AND I AM UNDERLINING THIS: ANY KIND, ANY TYPE, OR BETTER SAID ANY INITIAL ONE - REPARTITION/DISTRIBUTION OF A SMALL SIZE=VOLUME n, INSIDE OF A GENERAL=GAUSSIAN PROBABILITY FIELD, BECOMES A SO CALLED NORMAL=NATURAL ONE, or A BELL-SHAPED ONE, AS n - the number=volume of observations about her MEAN IN TIME - gets bigger=LARGER and bigger=LARGER, to infinite=till the END IN TIME.

This aspect of the Central Limit Theorem of Leapunov, shows us, that SERIES OF INDEPENDENT=RANDOM VALUES, THAT ARE DISPERSED=SPREADED TO FAR AWAY IN PLUS OR IN MINUS ABOUT=AGAINST THE CENTRAL TENDENCE=TREND=MEAN IN TIME - let it also be a moving average mean, and not quit necessary, but much better, like the BEST FIT=THE HIGHEST LEVEL FOR THE R-SQUARED INDICATOR allowes, AN EXPONENTIAL or A POLYNOMIAL one - (as a LEVEL, that initially is established as a hypothesis, which we have to TEST IT and also TO PROVE IT STEP BY STEP IN TIME) ARE MANIFESTING AS EXCEPTIONS, AND ARE ALSO TO BE TREATED SO, because we are interested to know (before, to foresee) with a very high degree of accuracy, WHICH ARE THE MOST PROBABLE SUPPORT=ENTRY AND RESISTENCE=EXIT LIMITS IN TIME INDEED, for our researched evolution, AS A TRUE KNOWLEDGE THAT ENABLES US TO TAKE THE CORRECT=RIGHT DECISIONS.

I wish You All a Happy New Year!

You are the people who was ever tolerating me, when i was only a problem!
Thank You again!

Regards,
Doru Stoian

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 12:47 pm:

Happy New Year to you too, Doru.

Keep posting from time-to-time.

I am a small theorist and enjoy the stimulation of different approaches ... in moderation.

Keep Smiling

Trading style: CFD's predominantly long term.

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 06:21 pm:

Ahoy Admiral Col'n

If Captain Fibonacci had have lived for another 950 years I could have sued him by now!!

Talk About Rotten Luck!!!!

Salute and Many Thanks for another Great Year
Capn

PS:You done good most of the time!

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Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897

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Monday, January 01, 2007 - 09:47 am:

My own view is that Fibonacci works because the 50% retracement often coincides with support at the previous peak. See Trend Strength for an illustration.

Regards,
Colin

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Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 08:36 am:

I have moved the discussion on prediction techniques to the Indicators Topic.

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Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 05:15 am:

Hi Colin,
Any update on the Fib tools with a likely date for release?
Thanks

nashlow

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Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 05:59 pm:

Colin, thanks for the Fib tool, it's great to have it.
Might I suggest that it would be a better tool if the lines extended from the take off point to the the end of the chart as interpretation of its working on any given occasion is supported by a good fit from early on in the trend you are assessing and forecasting beyond the current point in time where reactions will be
Secondly you could have just the one tool and forget the Fib extension tool, by building in extension boxes to be used (or not) from within the one Fib tool, and if checked and numbers added, then the extension lines will appear.
A terrific addition to an already quality program you have developed.

Being able to draw some simple vertical time cycle lines of choice (30 day, 90 day 120 day or X days) would be a nice addition when you've run out of things to do on your weekends off.

Cheers and thanks

Trevor

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Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 06:04 pm:

Oh, I forgot to say, it would be nice if the little requester didn't pop up when you selected and drew a Fib overlay each time. A right mouse on the drawn fib lines, enabling a default option such as HIGH/LOW or close (also Extension) to choose once and alter only if needed, would be more convenient I think.

Trevor

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Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 12:41 am:

Thanks a lot Colin for the Fibonacci tools, they are great.

Sometimes I just have a little problem with it. When I click to start drawing the line only a dot appears and then the "select price data" window. Not sure if others have experienced the same problem.

Juergen

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Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 12:27 pm:

Juergen,

Click and drag your mouse over the required range and you should see a dotted line as you drag across the chart. If you merely click and release, you will get a dot.

This is explained in more detail on the Fibonacci Help Page.

Regards,
Colin

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Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 12:53 pm:

Juergen,
Just received a report from another user that he sometimes attempts to click and drag a trendline but is only left with a dot at the start (where he first clicked). Is this what you are experiencing?

Regards,
Colin

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Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 03:28 pm:

Colin

yes that is exactly what I'm experiencing too. That does not always happen but I have not figured out when or what causing it. I'll let you know when I find out more.

Regards,
Juergen

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Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 12:59 pm:

Hi Colin,

What may be happening is that for those that are having this problem is they may be "clicking" the left mouse button at the commencement of the range rather than "holding down" the left mouse button at the first location and then dragging the mouse to the second location and then "letting go" of the mouse button.

Cheers

Rudy

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Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 01:27 pm:

Thanks Rudy,

I thought so at first, but now suspect that something is re-setting the mouse while it is being dragged. We suspect that this may be the cross-hairs, but are still trying to reproduce the fault on one of our PCs.

Regards,
Colin