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| | Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 10:55 am: |  
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New High yesterday and a growing amount of Interest.
Thursday it was announced that Drilling Rigs were set to start preliminary Feasability studies in two of MAK's Holdings.The current interest appears to be around Phosphate Mine and this is being fed by Farming/Agriculture being the Next Big Thing.
However the Drill Rig for the phosphate angle is due to start in APRIL,after the NT wet season so I reckon that point wasn't really appreciated in yesterday[Fridays]Candle so that's why it reversed and furthermore I figure that a retrace is next weeks action for Buying.
The Andrews Fork is just there for "experimentation"/Pattern "guessing" but I've got to go out and will Flesh Out more on MAK later.
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| | Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 08:50 am: |
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I'm considering MAK as a Long Term Hold because I see some "rarity" in it's story/scenario.
There's been a lot of talk/chat about Amalgamation in the Mining/Materials Sector.There's views that the old Wildcat days are passing.The expense of actual production,explorers becoming "legit" is becoming more Pie In than Blue Sky.Even this possible maybe merger BHP/RIO is a "threat" to the "little guys" in that the Reserves of the Bigies are so huge and their contacts/marketing so encompassing that Small producers could be wiped out etc etc blah waffle.
So anyway let's just say I'm suckered by the name MINE Makers and their attempt to Boutique/Niche Market "specialised" minerals like Phosphate and Tungsten etc.
Now I haven't exhaustively researched MAK.Haven't really absorbed any particular "inside" high Commerce Factor in them.Just read some recent Announcements to get "d'Gist".
Phosphate-As said above this is Hot like the New Uranium.MAK is backing some MAYBE Deposit in NT,close to the Qld Border.MAK touts this as being close to Infrastructure,at least it's on the Sturt/Stuart Highway or something.
The Main Tout is the tenements close proximity to a Known Massive Deposit owned by some Blue Chip,Incitec Pivot,I think.
This proximity to a Major seems to be the "latest" thing in Minors.Like Flinders Diamonds doing a "Survey" for Iron Ore and coming the tout of Could Be Massive Concentration?Why? Well,just look at a Map we [FDL] are right next door to Fortesque ergo it could be.
No longer do canny investors have to be delayed waiting Drill Results,JORC reserve Calculations.That's all old hat,all one does now is look at a Map!
Anyhow MAK's phosphate Maybe is some 100kilometre North West of Incitecs but out there in Never Never Land 100 klicks IS next door.
Anyhow,MAK is doing the twist and turn "wildly" at a New High Level.It turns out all right by the End of yesterday but it was under the open most of the Day.It VWAPed at 68 yesterday but I have a 3 day VWAP to calculate on it yet.
MAK is some Year+3/4 months from first floating so there could be Capital Gains Discount Takers.
There's a Limited Shares Listed in MAK BUT it's got Mines to Make so this will change/Dilution.Personally I'm hoping MAK has "respectable" Management that Dilutes by Offers to All ShareHolders instead of Sophistos but that's a personal Bias that along with some more FAscinating FActs I'll rabbit on about later or elsewhere.
The Chart.
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| | Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 12:37 pm: |
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hey dug
did you catch today's run or still contemplating?
cat lady
Without my morning coffee I might as well be a dog
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| | Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 01:17 pm: |
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no cat_lady I'm sidelined muttering Ohhh I was Gunner.
It's turns during the day are a bit of an ache.If I had bought I probably would of sold earlier anyway.
That Fork Pattern is only "experimental".In hindsight I'm developing one of my criteria as getting a drift,waft on d'draft from bleeding Warm Pig cresendo of Posts.
It worked with CVI and coulda,shoulda,woulda worked with MAK so it goes thru my head.
The problem on buying the retrace now is how deep and for how long.Some plunge could break the pilgrims hearts,set up a wall of worry for latecomers to pacify sloooooooowly.
I'm thinking with much fewer if any Rockets in the Current Market,shares with limited On Issue and a Story are being targeted by them THEY d'dreaded Day Traders.
Transitory not Staunch if you follow?
hey cat_lady you know how you follow Eugenio's Mums Tenet about Management,Management?
PHK Phoslock is doing exemplary Governance this week.Not Only did They have a Trading Halt last Friday BUT on the day of asking for it they gave the reason WHY!![A Placement]
Then they did a Placement today but with these real Governance Innovations
like it was by Convertible Note AND Interest is paid 6 monthly not in Cash but SHARES.
ohh it's a pity the ASX called it PHK instead of the company preferred PWS
Phoslock Water Solutions PWS doesn't have the PHK connotation to the texting young pilgrims,hey?
regards.
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| | Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 01:21 pm: |
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have a free PDF book on trading the pitchfork if any one is interested.
by rights you should also draw in the counter pitchfork
The "Sea of Uncertainty" is defeated by the nimble vessel "Probability", not the unwieldy vessel "Prediction".
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| | Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 02:32 pm: |
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thanks for the offer,coyotte but I'll decline.That top line has No Confirmation whatso ever.
I'm thinking today is Blow Off Volume so I'm "experimenting" with the ol'Vegie Maths Fibo.
Trying to calculate a Retace of 60%ish like it did recently.Do you go along with the theory of Pattern Repeat?
Got to do something when ya just hanging around.
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| | Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 03:18 pm: |
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do not know what you mean about confirmation of the pitchfork ?
The Median Line is confirmed by the Swing Low back in July.
U do not just Draw a Pitchfork it must calculated from the previous swings and has nothing to do with Fib No's.
the chart below is a McLaren approach. --- A breach of this high would indicate a Slowing or Changing of the Trend
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The "Sea of Uncertainty" is defeated by the nimble vessel "Probability", not the unwieldy vessel "Prediction".
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| | Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 03:44 pm: |
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Knew it had nothing to do with Fib Numbers but not much else,coyotte.
I haven't read McLaren but I have some VWAP numbers for the last 3/4 days.
Thursday-Monday 3DVwap 65.7
Friday to Tues 3DVwap 76.5
thr day-59.6
fri day 68
Mon Day 68
Significantly Perhaps Today 85.3 the Close even on excess Volume.
So I'm guessing that a retrace may be into the 66/76 Range,maybe into 58ish but 70 is shaped quite nicely by the parameters
but it could also do a Captain Twist of the Good Ones Don't Come Back because of the Close on Volume at the Vwap and still rocket away from even ToDay.
Must do a Log Gander.
It's all a bit academic,hey?but there's some confirmation of Calculation by both your last chart and my wacked together Fibo so could be interesting?
cheers.
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| | Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 10:16 am: |
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So MAK is hanging in there.Inside daying to Tuesday Volume Big Green.Is it Island Clustering,though?Being distributed at this peak price?
Would you buy it at this? Gone up 4 times the December price so you think it's a Bargain?
I don't think so myself.As a prospective first time Buyer,I find no reason/news to bite at 80+.
I await hibi,telling me about Tungsten and giving some idea of IF/When production may start or is it still doing JORC build up of Reserves?
MAK is getting a lot of Ramping Attention,chiefly because it is performing "extraordinarily" in this choppy market.Still haven't dug around much in it re Management "Finesse" etc.I wonder if MAK is planning to actually mine "stuff" or whether it's trying to find "significant" deposits Proved Up for off loading to Majors?
The other day the Ramp floated that MAK may build a bleeding Rail Line from Mt Isa to Tennant Creek."They" costed such a thing as a mere 200mil$.Contacted Managing Director to get his opinion.
Geez this openess by MD's to shareholders queries is really getting out of control.Fancy having to field dumb propositions from Warm Pigs all day.
No wonder Directors gouge out Huge Salaries irrespective of whether they dig up anything!!
Happy Trading.
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 05:25 am: |
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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23228891-643,00.html
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 08:12 am: |
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"MINEMAKERS SECURES DRILLING RIGS
FOR WONARAH
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Drilling plans have been submitted to the statutory authorities for routine approvals. Subject
to these approvals and the passing of the Wet Season, drilling is planned to begin in early
April 2008."
Looks like we will get some action within the next month
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 10:27 am: |
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rockon- that article's reference to fertilizer price rise due to bio-fuels production could be wrong.
bio-fuels/ethanol has really fallen off the Alternative Energy Radar.It's got a problem in [a] it[ethanol etc] uses a lot of fossil fuels in it's production and [b] distorts produce Food prices.It's not proving Energy Efficient,no good using a litre of petrol to make a litre of Ethanol.
The Europeans,last I heard,were ditching Ethanol and it's subsidies. The Yanks are still keen but that's because of the Farmer Vote.After the election they could ditch such fuels too.
The Boffins are working on Ethanol,Bio Fuels from Algae,now.Trying to speed up the Natural Way Oil was formed eons ago.Also no one's eating Algae,right? so it don't disrupt the Third World;TakeOver Farming for Food,Square Miles.
Anyhow all this may cause the Fertilizer Price/MAK's to retreat IF the market wakes up to such factors and the above proves relevant.
cheers.
Hibi-The Wet Season can go into April.No drill start no short term anticipation of Results.
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:55 am: |
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Also read a snippet suggesting that Bio Fuels are/maybe/may be more harmful to the greenhouse than previously thought. Although that came from a Uranium site so that could be a curve ball as well.
Missed out on getting into this one. I thought that Feb 8 might have bought a pullback to 50/55 so I didn't keep much of an eye on it for a while... Bummer eh. Now looking for the gap at 73 to be filled although the last few days have formed a small triangle.Just a bit dodgy for me ATM.
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 12:19 pm: |
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"Clever" management shown today with coming up with an "Alternative" Drill Core Sample.
Wonder if a lot of other Explorers are lining up outside the MineDepartments to get similar "favoritism".
Still got to get RESULTS processed.How long is that taking these days at Perth Labs?
that bit in d'article,rockon about Ferilizer being a "side line" til They woke up is a bit "dubious".Especially when put with the string of other tenements initially preferred incl bleeding Uranium.
Still the Market loves MAK but I agree that gap looms large for possible Initial Entry.
cheers
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 12:38 pm: |
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Bio/ethanol bit in your uranium article,rockon may have been in relation to tree clearing forests of SE Asia for palm oil etc.
The Europeans are looking to BAN such sourced stuff.Something about Oranutangs,them long armed monkeys getting their habitat wiped out and,well a picture of one with them mornful eyes panics the kiddies when told they're doing d'extinct for Bio Fuel to run collectors cars say.
Kiddies would rather keep monkeys au naturel rather than aspire to owning some broken down car like say a Triumph Stag!!
edit CC can stand for Car Collector.Leave you to guess which one he "cruises" in.
(Message edited by dug on February 18, 2008)
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 12:56 pm: |
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Maybe the more sails the better for boats but as far as Triumphs go, 2 wheels definitely better than 4 
Everything stopped or going backwards on this end today, so I'll try to hunt down that U article, although I can't remember where it is.
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 01:46 pm: |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/08/science/earth/08wbiofuels.html?_r=4&pagewanted =1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Now thats a link....
Not so much about the fuels themselves but the process taken as a whole.Probably no more than what you already know..anyway, it's worth reading just to keep an open mind about these things.....So much for the gap..
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| | Monday, February 18, 2008 - 02:38 pm: |
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Lot more pilgrims trapped/disillusioned IF it pulls back to Gap from $1+,rockon.This leads to not a good recovery what with Break Even sellers in the future.
Using hindsight,when would you have sold?It turned a few times earlier at 95ish.It's VWAP is around now 97 so it's intra day trading at quite a premium coming into the Close.
A lot of Short Term Interest came to bear on MAK.Will that translate into it being a Long Term Goer?
It's limited shares on issue,as per your first Australian Article is only transitory.As soon as they have to dig a hole,Costs will come to bear causing Placements,dilution waffle etc.
It'd be "tricky" if the Fertilizer Mine got on sold to Incitec who have a mine down d'road from MAK's but are the BigBoys busy enough with their own tenements,don't need some minnow's discovery?
All veeeeery interesting and educational but I wonder why WHY they need to retest the Mines Dept Historical Core Sample?
Wouldn't that have already been done?
Surely the NT Public Service don't file lumps of dirt without knowing What's it Mean?
as well as Where did ya get it?
Knowing d'bloody NT they'll probably analyse Baby Blood and there'll be a Hell of a Kerfuffle!!
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| | Friday, February 22, 2008 - 11:13 am: |
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rockon-
do you listen to those BRR interview things? They even have TV broadcasts now I see.Geezus it's getting like those TV ads where the owner insists on appearing.Now we got MD's doing puff radio interviews.
I don't listen to them myself.I rely on Chat Rooms coming up with Interpretations of what they heard said.A sentiment indicator I reckon.
Anyhow IF you listened to it,Rockon how about giving me the Gist?
So far over at Warm Pig there seems to be
1]a Kerfuffle about a Phosphate Mine costs $500 mil to get up.
2]We're all going to Die! because phosphate might run out in 20years or so then we won't be able to Eat.
3]Some solution re We're all gunner DIE! may lay in Recycling Human Waste because we consume the phosphate in Vegies and Meat then Flush it down the toilet.
4]This Academic is on a Crusade to get everyone to store their waste for collection at home because it's too expensive to recycle out of a Sewerage Treatment Plant.
Seems this she of an Academic is on the Permaculture Kick.
Can't wait for Pete Garrett to announce this one on the Public.He really should stop shaving his head.It only gives credibility to the observation he's stark staring Bonkers.Especially when TV drags out those Video Clips of our Pete "dancing".
Betcha Rockon this Academic shiela has short hair and wears Overalls!
Anyhow,at least Warm Pig is a Lol while they're telling you things.
I'm not buying any Gap Fill,rockon at 75 cents.The MAK mania would be dead in d'water if it goes back there now.Only really Smug Clowns would do the Nah Nah Nahs at non-holders who were STILL waiting for an Entry point there.
Got to stay Fluid,hey rockon?
cheers.
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| | Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:58 pm: |
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Dug,
Have only ever listened to 2 BRR's and that was enough. Talk about Golden Tonsils.The first was head honcho of a supposedly indestructible new gold producer and it was very hard not to believe every word he said.... Like honey trickling from his tongue if you know what I mean......anyway, he hasn't got a lot to say these days if anything at all, after his vision of an ivory tower collapsed.
I could be wrong here but I feel as if these radio interviews are designed to cater to the punters and not the bigger boys.Not a lot of new info comes out, and the old news re hashed sounds a bit more credible coming from the horses mouth.That then gets tossed around on forums like H/C and and that is cheap advertising.
Haven't had anything to do with MAK since the other day. If anyone thinks that there are legions of people waiting patiently at .75 then they would be wrong.Was going to start waffling on about sniggerers and their camp followers but as K.B. Wilson says....Dilligaf...
Always some body with an alternative view no matter what the subject especially if they had a government grant to help them arrive at their conclusion.Just got to be careful that ones own thoughts and decisions aren't swayed by lol and his mates.... bit of a worry bout the "we're all going to die" bit though.
Anyway, off the air for a while now to try to find a computer person who knows something about computers..Cheers
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| | Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 03:36 pm: |
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Here is a good link guys
http://fertilizerworks.com/
Incredible Charts
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| | Monday, March 10, 2008 - 04:19 pm: |
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Anyone still watching/holding this one?
It issued $11mil of $1.50 shares to "Institutions" especially they say.
Haven't read the latest Announcement in entirity yet but did see that the money is for a whole raft of projects not just the Fertilizer Deal,that's some 2 years at least off Production.
Anyway I was wondering if the 150 could be used as a Stop?
This is a Highly Ramped Share but deservedly so what with all the Dire News of Food Production shortages.
Did you read in the weekend papers about the Ethanol poo poo?I figure that the Turn Away from Ethanol will occur before MAK is producing so fertilizer prices may not be so "rosy" with this factor Ethanol etc stymied?
but,hey that's two years away.MAK could still have some Go in it yet.On Positive Drill results,that is,re the Fertilizer.
This mob's Management seem to have started without any real clue about Fertiliser.They were more salvinating at Tungsten etc.Hoping to jump on the Iron Ore Steel bandwagon with actually also some Uranium claim back up.
So basically they didn't care about Fertiliser;only did a wikipedia search for info about it when they saw the share price jump on the back of it.
Also MAK has some other fertiliser rock than potash,so it's not much use trying to Me Too on bleeding Potash.Think pot ash may be too plentiful,easily mined,able to be supplied quicker and more plentifully than rocks that MAK's has maybe got but I don't know that definitely like,so DYOR.
So it's CONsolid ating,Right?
Will it jump up or down or stay sideways?
cheers.
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