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Here's one for the TechnoCrats.
What's a TA point for buying into a "rocket" such as CFU?

It's Long Term Future appears assured because of a Recent Big Contract signing.
It has been catapulted out of a Major DownTrend.

So what price giving CFU a Go?


I'm thinking 68.
Anyone out there NOT frozen in Regret?Like I shoulda,woulda back at bleeding 40 but Not Ever Now?

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well got in at 78.
yeah yeah othodoxy requires waiting for retrace etc but I got an Excuse.Several of them in fact
a] 75 cents in the Intra Day chart showed 75 Support

b]I think that most long term Holders are not in profit so much as at Break Even 80centish.See Whole of Life CFU chart.

c]This is a pretty incredible Deal CFU has got.It fits perfectly with Carbon Control.CFU is lined up to replace every Oil Powered Water Heater in Europe.Euros don't only wash in Hot Water they HEAT duct their Houses with them.

I could go on and on but I'm assuming a Rising Three or more coming up and this is Day#1.

ohh and the Word is Europe Bourses haven't woken up to CFU yet[where it's listed thru Frankfurt]and to night is for them to wake up.

Black Swan Alert pilgrims to MaMMon.
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So CFU did the Retrace.Impatience is a Vice.
Bought some more so my Buy price now 70 cents.Doubling down is a Sin.
So I'm on the Outer re d'Money and have to come up with some Soul Salving Hypothesis to maintain the Faith in CFU.

Here it is-
This floated at $1 in Australia and later when it listed on AIM London it issued 1:1 more shares at 50 cents.So original holders who took part in each of these "events" have Holdings 75 cents.

I see by the 3+ year chart that this level 75 cents has been a "common price for CFU activity ie it's Support/Resistance at least a Level 75/80 ish.

Furthermore I have calculated approx 7 million Turnover CFU from January til Last Thursday's Rocket.Price Jan til then was below 55 cents w/- 7 mil Volume.

I conclude that such Holders saw on Thursday a very respectable short term Gain % and on Friday the "slow" also saw a respectable profit % so They SOLD.

I'm therefore plotting that Short Term Holders are now OUT so this week CFU should Rise IF this announcement is "encouraging" Long Termers and Ex CFU holders to give this a Burl.

The "Fly",the Contra Opinion in all this is whether Long Term Holders have taken the Rally as an Opportunity to Cash Out and I've been caught in a trap,well and truly with CFU returning to the 40's/low 50's.

ahh Suspicious Minds.We cain't go on together.

Anyway 2day[Th Fr] VWAP calculates at 66.9.I'd like Monday to see CFU at that level EOD.
Tough Ask with the current Market,hey?




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In Chart Patterns Is this a H&S Pattern?,coyotte today made mention of our D Guppy's "New Pattern" the Pile Driver.
A candle that pounds down the share price on a day only to subsequently return to prior price range.However price over the following weeks drops to the Pile Driver Day's Low and Beyond.


So here's an example of this.This was one of those Terror Days in the General Market.DOW collapse etc.I didn't hold CFU at the time but did check out the Market Depth and Course of Sales on that particular day.
The return to 90centsish was achieved by a single small transaction taking CFU from 70 back to 90 on the Close[round figures approximate]
The Main Factor was that
a]The Single sale down the Bid Line was NOT followed by Auto Stops kicking in to fill the Ask.ie the Spread was 70 Bid to a 90 Ask on the Close with the Auction resulting in the Return to previous Trading Level 90's.

b]Note the Volume on this particular Day.This MAY indicate that Stop Loss/Kangaroo Tail Raiding was NOT an alternative scenario.

I'm trying to work out the Psychology behind this Pattern.Other than a Desperate Margin Call Seller hitting the Button.I'm getting an inkling that Auto Stop Orders have fallen from favour.Stop Raids may be gone and no longer is a successful Bounce Back a "trigger" for a pilgrim to think that "insiders" are trying to accumulate.

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Hi Duggie,
If I see a post and I like the chart and say so, I am accused of having supplied the "kiss of death". If I see a post and don't like the prospects, do I provide the "kiss of life" ?

I think - and hope that I am wrong, that CFU will close the gap. Maybe then, it will move upwards again. The product is possibly good enough to change the way we look at using energy but it may be too advanced a concept for the punters to comprehend and value accordingly.
So tell me, did you buy this as a long term hold ?
My portfolio is suddenly full of those !




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Hershy,
let's hope your dislike is a real Positive CFU.You really should adapt/adopt at least some FA,if only to find reasons behind moves and FActs about your Buys.

Anyhow,the CFU unit is one of those back Feeders into the Power Grid.A household with one independently SUPPLIES the Grid in off peak hours.They have the cost at $2/3000 each and Hershy there's talk of the Power Companies supplying them to Households Free or Subsidised by about 2010.

So that's just a few Facts that raises CFU appeal.There's a lot more but I won't bore.
No one is selling the Gap to gain Profits Hershy.Volume is particularly Low and there seems to me a Willingness to HOLD even if ya under water ie FA devotees vs Trading Plan Pilgrims.

Anyhow,it has a probability to Close the Gap but I think the Fact of the recent large order SHOULD get CFU out of doing that.
There is a distinct possibility if not Certainty that Another Large Order is coming from either Europe or Japan SOON.That'll pick it up just like the last one.

I see that 70/90 was a Accumulation Zone over past years.I'm expecting CFU to return to that price and beyond UP.

As a chart interest I'm thinking that there'll be a Mirror Pattern of the 140 peak Island Cluster/Attol that formed awhile ago at the CFU Top.
So I'm saying that a similar Island Cluster [NOT filling the Gap]MAY form now at base and Sign for a Major Reversal UP.

So yeah,I'm holding a small parcel CFU for the Long Term so I don't miss the next Order Announcement Rush.
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What criteria are you using,Hershy to Long Term Hold/Stick in the bottom drawer?
I'm using Bulk Ca$h in the Bank.No need to raise further Capital by borrowing or placement as THE one criteria for d'Middling2Large Holds.CFU,DYE.
Let's me sleep in the afternoon even.
Both these have Millions in the Bank NOW to finance the Start of Commercial Production soon.
I see this as an Incredible Positive in the Current Market and going into the Future.This FAct alone will draw Institutional interest When they,d'BigBoys get back into Longing.

Now,of course I hold other shares that do NOT meet this criteria but my holdings in such are so low now that they are virtually Stop Loss Exempt under the 2% Money Management Rule.

How are you handling Loss Positions,Hershy?

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Duggie, I know what Ceramic Fuels do and like their idea. I simply doubt that the bean counters - who do the hard fundamental yakka appreciate the worth of this company and are rushing in to overwhelm supply with orders. Hence the Technical analysts are not buying the stock either.
I hope that I am wrong and the CFU does take off and make you heaps of moolah. I just think you're arguing with the market.
Which is what I have been doing when my short trades turned out to be something I was not looking for. I have recently jumped into AQP, WDC and PDN and single handedly made these stocks reverse direction. Not being prepared to make a rea loss by selling these holdings I opt, instead to hold a paper loss and look to a brighter future, i.e - long term investment.
Nick Radge quoted somebody who had said;
"Hope is the enemy of the trader".
I hope the apparent collapse in the commodities prices is just due to manipulation. That'sy present criteria for handling loss situations.
I know Dug. Very dangerous and stupid.
Mea Culpa.


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hershy wrote on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 03:03 pm:

I hope the apparent collapse in the commodities prices is just due to manipulation. That'sy present criteria for handling loss situations.




Yet these three,AQP,WDC,PDN are not solely down because of Commodity Prices.Only PDN really fits that and yet somehow you adopt this criteria?Also you think Commodities are being Manipulated so you're banking on it to continue so you Short?
and to think I have such a reputation for being confused and confusing.
I know nothing and want to know less about Shorting,Hershy.

I'm also ditching thinking like a Trader and getting my head around being a Dealer.Specialising not Speculating[so much].

Re CFU my "Fears" are around the price of Oil dropping,stabilising under $100 Long Term.
Some new invention capable of drilling/draining more Oil Reserves.
European Governments Back Burner ing Climate Change action so they can save Banks.

Specifically that CFU is not capable of bringing it's thingamajig into the "It Works.It's Affordable" world.

Personally I find such Fears much easier to handle than
A Platinum Mine NOT being able to recommence activity in South Africa.{AQP}
Westfield Shopping Towns in America being further decimated by a Depression[WDC]
and bleeding uranium doing anything at all.
ALL leading to a Share Price Short being Leveragedly Whacko,a Winner.
cheers gotta go whisper encouragement to d'Bride.



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Short ?
Who said anything about shorting ?
You credit me with much more intelligence than I have supposedly been blessed with.
BHP bro, BHP...
Buy. Hope . Pray !!

WDC is not a commodity, I know. The 7.6 billion smackaroos they have in the bank when credit is in short supply, is.


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hershy wrote on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 03:03 pm:

Which is what I have been doing when my short trades turned out to be something I was not looking for.




short TERM Time Frame nix Ploy was it Hershy,chocolate bar,mate?

on another matter,I'm not in d'Frame for disrupting the H&S pattern discussion by that Mexican Paddy,am I?
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Are we seeing an Island Cluster Reversal for Top and Bottom?





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Unusual and Large Placement of 35mil of shares at ~42cents for A$14.7mil just been announced.
Unusual because
1]It's been announced so far to the Market ONLY by the Dow Jones Wire Service.
2]ASX went into Trading Halt but the London AIM didn't.
3]CFU has some A$39 mil of Cash and Financials in the Bank.Cash Burns at ~A4$mil/qtr and is not really desperate for Ca$h as to require a Large Cash Raising at Bottom Prices.

Now because there's been No Official Announcement yet by the Company itself,there MAY be a sweetener to come or at least some valid explanation for {3} above especially.

See this other mob is in the Fuel Cell Game.They're called Baxi and they're some much bigger Company involved in products across the Board not just CFU style Water Heater Gizmos.
Baxi recently announced they're going to Market NOW with a Fuel Cell Style Heater.No price was mentioned and the Baxi Unit was aimed at hitting the HouseHolder to Buy it with the "gimmick" that excess capacity could be sold back into the Grid.This household sale to d'BigPOWERs,presumably would help Johnny'n'Mary Average to pay for d'Baxi Unit.

Now CFU is going to Market it's Units Direct and in Bulk Numbers to the Power Companies Themselves.Thus BigPower gets the excess capacity fed back into their Grid for their own profit and expense covering.
I think BigPower would prefer this to d'Baxi Model that gets consumers whinging for subsidies/extra cost/expense over and above current electricity prices so consumers/voters get money for being all warm'n'fuzzy about being Green

So what's it all mean dug?What d'Blazes are you meandering on about?

Well we have to wait to find out who's got this Placement.Does it generate a New Substantial Holder?at least a Change UP in Sub Holdings? We know that CFU has some pretty classy Sub Holders and some pretty Fancy and BIG "interested" parties in it's product.

The one to watch is this Jap mob called Paloma.They have a tendency to Hit The Market with a Product and do the Development,Testing,Development off the Factory Floor not so much in the Lab.Paloma is a WorldWide esp Yank Market Leader.Paloma does RHEEM as one of it's Brands for example.

Anyway Paloma is just one of a Dozen possible NEW Substantial Holders that could take this Placement and the only logical reason for raising this Money now when you already have $40mil and a $4mil/qtr cash burn is....

any and all suggestions/scenarios welcome



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Dug

This seems to smell a bit at the moment - I might have to review what I originally thought about this company.

If more cash is needed for something good, than surely they would raise by way of a rights issue.

If they are not bringing somebody onto the register, that is going to be good for all existing holders than you would have to wonder who they are looking after.

Better not pre-judge I guess, but it will be interesting to see what unfolds.


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I agree."They" seem to be suffering cultural cringe,going for Euro Trash.Can see no reason WHY get these Funds Now when Money is in d'Bank aplenty against current cash burn.
CFU appointed some new broker recently,I'm getting a distinct smell from this placement especially it's justification not being transparent.
Think it won't be til 3 days after May 9th Listing that Sub Hold Changes,if any,appear.
Company itself complained once before about the AIM listing,category they're in.
You should note that the Feb Order from NUON was announced to AIM to trade before Oz/ASX could.Nothing much happened AIM til Oz whacked 80%odd onto the price which AIM then followed.
This placement closing the Gap at 42 cents is quite pathetic.We'll just have to wait on d'Please Explain.
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Dug

I’ll talk too you, but I’m not sure there’s much to say about CFU at the moment.
I like the fuel cell story, but it takes a good management to turn a good story into good cash. I’m holding my opinion at the moment but I have concerns. Why in the hell did they choose now to raise capital? There didn’t appear to be any pre-existing need or new announcement to justify it. Who are they looking after? All substantial holdings to date have been dilution, dilution, dilution. If the gap is closed than the chart is back to being crap and without a positive announcement soon, management has credibility issues. There are positives in the technology so I'm still watching for a positive announcements, but I don't want to own any why I wait.







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bit of Movement up from 42cent Placement Price.Are the BIG Institutions that took part in this "gift" price Placement doing the right thing and topping up on Market?
Re-establishing this week at least Support 50cents?
Better above 55?
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