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colin_twiggs

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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 04:45 pm:

I am sure that many readers are outraged by the treatment of Tibetans, but feel powerless because of the intransigence of the Chinese government. That is an illusion -- far from being powerless, you can make a difference.

If you are unhappy with the Chinese government's actions, withhold your support. When you next make a purchase, if an item is made in China, don't buy it -- find an alternative.

Pass this message to your friends. A single grain of sand has no power, but anyone who has been caught in a sandstorm will tell you it is an irresistible force.

Regards,
Colin

All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke

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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:12 pm:

Rather than cutting off demand for Chinese products we could send a much stronger message. We should cut off supply of commodities used to produce Chinese products. Let's stop all Australian commodity shipments to China and show them how serious we are in supporting the Tibetans.

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colin_twiggs

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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:27 pm:

Would love to .... but a bit old to start chaining myself to ore trucks.

Regards, Colin

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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:37 pm:

The Good: Tibetans Kosovans Timorese Palestinians
The Bad: Basques Chechens Kurds Quebecans
The Ugly: Humans

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colin_twiggs

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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:46 pm:

There is probably good and bad in all of us.

ohkoolnutz

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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 07:11 pm:

We could all buy BHP and when in control of the company decide who gets our commodities.

Of course I am being sarcastic. I don't like physical or mental coercion but it is out of our hands and looking at the world today and in the past this planet is full of hypocrisy of how policies are applied selectively to equal circumstances.

It's very easy for us to judge from afar how to maintain a stable society of a billion people. Yugoslavia had ten years of war as it broke apart and is still officially a war zone. You could expect at least 100 years of war if China loses control over its regions.

It may be in the best interest of the current Tibetans to become free people. It may be in the best interest of the greater human race to sacrifice some groups' minority agenda to contain greater separatism which could lead to world war.

Don't get me wrong. I am sympathetic to any burden any human faces. I am a current affairs, politics and economics fanatic but the sheer volume of injustice existing in the world has convinced me of the following:

"Improve the world by improving yourself."

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tyche

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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:46 pm:

What's bad about "Quebecans"

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 07:20 am:

What's good about Timorese? You get my point. It all depends which perspective one has.

Isn't life ironic... It looks like we don't need to stop shipping commodities to China after all. They are doing our job for us:

http://business.smh.com.au/china-locks-out-bhp-and-rio-ore/20080317-1zzz.html

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colin_twiggs

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 11:03 am:

This thread is about China and Tibet. If you have a beef about the Timorese or Quebecans, start another thread.

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 09:05 pm:

Although i agree in principle.
i find bit hard to condemn the Chinese, when after all we acquired Australia the same way !

like after China/Tibet where would it stop ?, England/Britain , USA, Europe , NZ etc etc etc.

may be idea to remove the log from our own eye first.

The "Sea of Uncertainty" is defeated by the nimble vessel "Probability", not the unwieldy vessel "Prediction".

colin_twiggs

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 09:43 pm:

Coyotte,

If we ourselves have, however indirectly, benefited from past oppression -- that should merely increase our moral obligation to speak out on behalf of others.

Regards,
Colin

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 12:32 am:

I agree.My local "member",Wilson "Iron Bar" Tuckey would have us believe he was merely observing a culture he purports to know more about than I,rather than sulking on the balcony,as I accused him of at the opening ceremony of parliament recently.I made this accusation in the local rag letters to the Ed(Geraldton Guardian.).Rock on Kevin.I think John got it wrong.Bring the boys home.Oh yeh,I realise this doesn't have anything to do with China or Tibet,but colin's spiel about righting wrongs got me going.

colin_twiggs

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 12:19 pm:

I witnessed oppression first hand in South Africa and believe it was primarily driven by fear. Some of those fears have since proved to be well-founded, others have not. Similarly, I believe that the Israelis are driven by fear in their conflict with the Palestinians.

What I fail to understand is what motivates the occupation of another country that poses no threat to you. Is it greed? Why did Hitler invade Poland? Because he could? What was the underlying motivation?

Similarly, why did China occupy Tibet? It was not a threat. They do not share the same culture and Tibet is not a wealthy country.

Regards, Colin

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