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   kate
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Username: kate Post Number: 377 Registered: 04-2005Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 08:29 am: | 
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Really interesting article Spider, I actually read this because my daughter is in the last weeks of her Honour's year and has spent the year complaining about being surrounded by these "incredibly intelligent" people who make her feel stupid! So it was with great glee that I printed off the article and shoved it under her nose with mutterings of "I told you so". As for me, what's 10 years if you love your job. I think 10 years is reasonable, 9 years to sort out all the psychological problems and the last year to finalise the trading plan!!!!!! Regards Kate
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   ingot54
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Username: ingot54 Post Number: 1599 Registered: 05-2004
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| | Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 09:15 am: | 
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Re: DECADE OF DEDICATION ... scholars of elite performance speak of a 10-year rule: ... you have to put in a decade of focused work to master something ... every person ... a decade of hard study or practice ... Olympic swimmers ... concert pianists ... top researchers ... sculptors ... mathematicians ... Sigh ... and traders? decade of focus ... work ... mastery ... study ... practice ... Whatever happened to those other wonderful Generation X words ... easy peasy ... now ... click ... instant ... gimme ... cool ... no sweat ... put-in-take-out ... etc? NOW I know where the 90/10 failure/success rate originates - in the head. The first word on the list would have to be : ATTITUDE Any other words come to mind? Old maid ... or maiden?
Keep Smiling Trading style: CFD's predominantly long term.
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   spider
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Username: spider Post Number: 2510 Registered: 10-2002
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| | Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:56 pm: | 
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Hi qed, thanks for the shaver offer, but I think that if I looked that good I might just let it grow. Every time I read your handle it reminds me of high school maths. My maths master was also my latin master, and he always love the Q.E.D. at the end of a problem. quad erat demonstrandum. kate, I loved hearing about your daughter. Did she get it, I'll bet she did. Of the guys that i went through school with only one became famous (he has his own national radio program), the others that made a big mark were mostly plodders. My cousin, who has a science degree, did nothing with it, but did eventually go on to teach, so I suppose that's something. The human spirit is an amazing thing, and to see it in action is a wonderous thing. I loved your "nine years for head stuff and one year to finish off the trading plan", many of us identify with that! Ingot, I have read a lot of your recent stuff, here and in other places. Anyone who has, and is still going through this, knows how you feel. Give yourself permission to 'go through it'. As the men in white coats used to say to me as they bundled me into the back of the van "Every day gets you closer to where you want to be, whether you like or not". Hang in there ( and come over and put some more comments on spider's web.) spider. (counting down the years till I get this right!)
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   spider
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Username: spider Post Number: 2519 Registered: 10-2002
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| | Friday, December 08, 2006 - 12:07 pm: | 
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PRAISE In another place, someone very kindly thanked spider for a post he made a few years ago. The information in this post helped this person add a strategy to their trading plan. Interestingly, spider's first instinct was to say thank you "but", this was information that he had gathered from somewhere else, so he could not take credit for the idea, etc., etc., etc.Nothing new under the sun, etc., etc., etc. I managed to catch myself before I made the post. (I actually had to double check the word 'acknowledgment' as I am not used to typing it!!) This would have been the standard Australian bullshit response when someone says something nice about you........... "Aw gee wizz it was nothin!". I have worked for many years to break old habits, and one of those habits is that false, self effacing crap. The reality is that I was wrapt that something I had posted so long ago had helped someone become a little more successful. It made me feel really good. I deserve to feel really good; we all do, but we spend way too much time keeping our 'egos' under control. Many years ago, a very wise person, told me that it was an insult to brush off a compliment. You were in effect saying to that person that you do not value their opinion! So the next time someone give you an acknowledgment, say thank you, and resist the urge to down play your achievement. Successful people welcome (and expect) compliments, as they know that it part of the process of rising above the ordinary to a place where the extraordinary is everyday. spider.
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   ingot54
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Username: ingot54 Post Number: 1601 Registered: 05-2004
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| | Friday, December 08, 2006 - 01:13 pm: | 
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Reminds me of this - Spider - and thanks for the reminder If each of us has a unique calling from God to use our gifts to His glory, why then do we shrink from our calling? Why do we hide our light under a bowl? Nelson Mandela, one of the greatest spiritual leaders of our time, addressed this question in his 1995 inaugural speech, quoting from the words of Marianne Williamson: “Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that frightens us. We ask ourselves, ‘Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?’ Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone.” ************************* “You Are the Light of the World” Keynote Address by Bill George Minnesota Prayer Breakfast March 23, 2005 “You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before people, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.” (Matt 5: 14-16) ************************* Spiritual beliefs are personal. Right now though, is an excellent time to demonstrate just how spirituality can benefit our fellows. Thus my post. Ask yourself this question, “Am I doing everything in my power to use my gifts to share the love of Christ with my sisters and brothers and to those along their way? If not, then ask, “What am I waiting for?” We are called by God. How will we respond to that call? If not me, then who? If not now, when? We are born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. ********************* Yes Nelson Mandela did not shrink from demonstrating God's glory in him, and look at the results. My post is not to preach - just to reflect.
Keep Smiling Trading style: CFD's predominantly long term.
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   dug
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Username: dug Post Number: 1856 Registered: 07-2005
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 10:55 am: | 
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Look truly I don't choose to be obscure,a negative energy but,well,I follow these esoteric philosophies and I have a counter point to this,pop pap,about YOU are the [d'] Greatest,yeah Dare to BE great. As a core can I try to explain? See I mighn't spell the names/words right but what's Left is- Nietchke Super Man,the original?no neitckey was just an updater to an Ancient Religion,out d'back of the Middle East,down d'Road THUS spake Zarusthawhatever territory. Anyhow,the Neitchkey ran out his Philosophies and it's now used to understand the Mind Set of SERIAL Killers.They dare to be Great,top of d'Hill They think themselves so do Mass Murders!!! What's happened,at least I reckon,is that this Self Esteem Pap has completely IGNORED the OBLIGATIONS of being at the Top of d'Pecking Order,like Food Chain,oh do you at least get my DRIFT??? Stuck Up Flash Ones even if they got societies Lycra Suit bestowed on 'em are just RED Hot for d'Go DOWN!!!Proud,PROUD,be PROUD but ya cain't take pride with or in it.It's just,like ONLY,whotcha DO. it's real hard to write[and live[edit]] out one's own thoughts but ya just gotta GOTTA try! Happy trading, jr (Message edited by dug on December 09, 2006)
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   rederob
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Username: rederob Post Number: 2107 Registered: 10-2002Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 11:55 am: | 
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dug should you be "here"? aren't you feeling "important" elsewhere? is religion, pshychology, philosophy, or trading more important to you? why so many questions?
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   spider
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Username: spider Post Number: 2525 Registered: 10-2002
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 02:43 pm: | 
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dug, I get where you are coming from. You think that it is dangerous for people to 'think' that they are "great', because it might go to their head (so to speak). There will always be 'nut cases' who lose it, and do strange/dangerous things, and say out loud outrageous things, but I'm sure that if you looked into those cases, you would find that most of them came from an environment where they were not valued as human beings. I'm guessing that you and I grew up during a time when the prevailing wisdom was "don't speak until you are spoken to, and don't let your successes give you a big head?" I believe that in each generation, a handful of people break out of this mould and go on to create a life for themselves, while everyone else lives out a life designed by someone else. On a spiritual level, i believe that it is an insult to the creator to say that he/she would create anything less than an amazing person. We are created as perfect beings, but it is up to us to remember this! I am not a 'religious' person, but it is impossible to have this discussion without explaining some of the spiritual aspects of it. It has been my experience that people live well below their 'potential'. Many people need only a little encouragement and they would blossom into the people that they deserve to be. I read your post as a genuine attempt to engage in ideas on this subject; I hope that i was not mistaken. Is it your belief that by acknowledging people we will cause them to turn into ego maniacs? On a personal level, I acknowledge that I don't think the way that most people do. I'll give you an example. When I was at high school, we had the usually group of d**k heads, usually amongst the senior year students. But, there were always one or two who stood out from the rest. They were comfortable with who they were, and did not need to bully anyone to make themselves feel good. Us younger ones idolised them, and personally, I decided that when I became a senior I would follow their example. My mates all said the same thing, but when time passed, and we were the senior class, they turned into the very people that they said they hated! When I challenged them on this, their collective reply was "When we were young we got bullied, now it's our turn to spread a little fear!". I just couldn't see the logic in this, and I still carn't. Wouldn't they rather be 'looked up to' than feared? I guess not. In my life, I have seen people do remarkable things because they had people around them that encouraged them and supported them along the way. Have you listened to this? Do you think that this guy would have achieved all that he has done without encouragement? spider. (typing with one hand as too much typing has caused the other hand to pack it in!)

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   dug
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Username: dug Post Number: 1857 Registered: 07-2005
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 03:45 pm: | 
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I bet you don't REALLY type one fingered,spider but I'll admit you try. Psychology[and Philosophy,Religion]is based on the Study of FLAWS not so much the Acknowledgement of Perfection or Betterness. By studying the Manifestly Flawed[ie Serial Killers]"They" ya academics,social commentators whatever draw Conclusions about what leads to Perfection,or being Adequate.It is not done by Admiring but by Contrasting. but enough of all this. In yer capacity as on the Moderate Board,spider,go up to Short Term,Open the INL thread,Read Chuck's Midnight Ramblings of two nights ago and tell me if YOU spider are part of d'"We"["the few of us" referred to in 'Looking after my wife' in the slimy,sleazy terms expressed by your "Friend" and this Forums right,REAL example of where this Ego Philosophy can take one. Do that and you'll find how your Enemies get created. cheers, jr (Message edited by dug on December 09, 2006)
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   spider
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Username: spider Post Number: 2527 Registered: 10-2002
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 04:33 pm: | 
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Hi dug, the moderators panel has not been in session for a long time. Colin has been dealing with anything that needed dealing with. I did as you asked. And no I am not one of those mentioned. I made the assumption that your first post was genuine, I layed out my ideas on the subject, in the hope that you would come back with your ideas. And, this is what you came up with? I don't abandon my friends even when they say inappropriate things, as with the post you mentioned, or even when they distance them selves from me, or even when they disagree with me. So CC will always be my friend, but that does not mean that I always agree with everything my friends do. Yes I am doing all of this with one hand, but it would seem that yet again I was mistaken when I assumed that you wished to have a discussion about ideas, as opposed to the everyday denigration of personalities. Having said that , I will give you five stars, in that you did not respond to CC's post on that thread. Then again maybe I should reduce that to four stars , as you did bring it here! As for how my enemies are created, I don't have a clue, and I care even less, but someone once said that one of the measures of a man is the calibre of his enemies. spider.
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   qed
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Username: qed Post Number: 35 Registered: 01-2006Rating: N/A Votes: 0
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 05:13 pm: | 
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hello hello, I have to add to this topic re accepting praise when due . I was told years ago, when I refused to let people help me do things when I was all prepared to help at drop of a hat,that all I was doing was DENYING other people the PLEASURE of helping me ,even if their help was waste of time and not done perfectly like I would do it , so accept praise if its due and be gratefull that you have made a difference to at least one person, cheers Qed
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   captain_chaza
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