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wanabe1

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Monday, December 04, 2006 - 09:57 am:

Mr. Kevin Rudd - the new Labor leader - intelligent and cool!
He looks and sounds decent too!

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Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:44 pm:

My wife rekons he looks like a weasel!!!

I personally think they got the #1 & #2 backwards, they should have put Julia Gilliard in as leader. She seems on top of things, good personality and I think the Australian people would go for a female PrimeMinister.

Not sure how the election will go though.

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 09:17 am:

Good Morning

A letter writer said this week that Kim Beazley would have been a good and decent Prime Minister, and then added Australia is not ready for that

As always younger pushy upstarts are only too willing to push aside the more experienced instead of playing their proper function of being willing, energetic and supporting leading team members

My view is that Kim and the whole party have been badly let down by brawling members of his "support" team, more interested in their own careers than the real interests of the country

Had they given him better, more united support in generating policies of real benefit to the nation their own, his and Australia's interest would have been better served

Make way now for the "Me Generation" and to hell it seems with decency and loyalty

With Best Wishes

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 10:00 am:

Hilarius - I, too, reckon Kim seems like a thoroughly decent guy.

However, can you really say Kevin & Julia are "younger pushy upstarts" or part of the "Me Generation"?

Kevin Rudd
Age: 49 years

Julia Gillard
Age: 45 years

Kim Beazley
Age: 58 years

As a Labour man, I'm happy with the leadership result.

Win / win.

We can now mount a decent challenge at the 2007 election and I reckon Kim was too decent for politics - I'd hate to have seen him have to change to gain power.

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:01 am:

Dean

Thank you for your correction on the ages of the people

Perhaps I should have said that the upstarts will be trying to appeal to the Me Generation

The Prime Minister is becoming the nearest thing Australia has to a Monarch or President

Kim as Prime Minister would have filled the ceremonial roles well and, given loyal support, could have led a strong united Government

As it is we have the principle of stabbing in the back over-riding the principle of decency

I know which I prefer and, unlike many, I see no necessity for disloyalty and ruthlessness in the conduct of public affairs

Kevin and Julia should have served a longer more loyal apprenticeship while being given ever more prominent roles under Prime Minister Kim

With Best Wishes

Hilarius

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:48 am:

G'day Hilarius

I agree with most of your points but tell them to Bill Hayden. Dog of a thing to do but that's politics as it is and as it has been.

There are a lot of very decent people in politics but the words decent and politics as we see them is a bit of an oxymoron.
Nature of the beast, really.
Wish it were not so but we've got to face reality.

888

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 12:36 pm:

Hi Macca

Yes I hear you ... and Dean

Many people think that a different standard of values operates in politics (and probably commerce in too) from the values many ordinary decent people strive to live by

The only problem with that view is that the more we tolerate that which we don't really want the more we are likely to get what we don't really want

I believe in the fundamental decency of most people and their desire for that in public affairs

I think many politicians underestimate that point when considering their own careers

Whether we should embrace current behaviour as "reality" or not is a question of whether we should support what is or what ought to be

Unless we seek that which ought to be we will always be left with what is ... or worse

I support Kevin Rudd's call for compassion and fairness ... I just wish he had exercised a little more of that in practice

I believe a better solution was possible and should have been considered, but as you say "reality" operated and I believe the ideals of fairness and decency suffered in the process

This is more and more reflected in public morality which is based on not getting caught doing wrong as against not doing wrong in the first place

Finally I believe that things get better or worse and the attitudes of ordinary people can change things for better or worse. Apathy of people in general is the enemy of beneficial change, and leadership consists of a good sense of where people would like to be lead

It is not only power and the economy ... it is whether the places we live in are getting safer and more decent, or less safe and more cut throat

If we are cut throat in boom times I hate to think of what it might be like if the boom ends, when working together becomes the only way forward

Perhaps we need a major depression to restore less greed driven values to the way people think?

With Best Wishes

Hilarius

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 02:18 pm:

To one political professor, Kim would have been the type of a PM who would never shamelessly exploit a Tampa (or Iraq). Unfortunately being a decent bloke does not a PM make.
But what expectations can we have of a leader who can not even sustain the loyalty of his own troops?

Looks like a weasel? Intriguing impression there from Mrs.davkel.
Assuming we are as cynical as the good missus, does that mean it becomes a contest between a weasel and a rat?
A cunning, sneaky person versus a scoundrel! Let the rrrramble begin!

While the jury is still on the new Labor Leader, is it true that someone from his own party actually called the PM ‘That lying rat’?

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 03:01 pm:

G'day wanabe1

I've always wondered what you wanna be?
Obviously not a journo? Gotta check your facts before committing to print. I think there may be rats in your own ranks. Amazing what those little incisors will chew up and spit out.
My best friend "Mrs 888" would be highly insulted by the

"Mrs" bit.

Hope this helps
888

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 03:18 pm:

g'day 888!
My sincere apologies to your best friend Mrs. 888.
Note the 2 immediate successive edits in my post. Those were for the corrections.

Again my sincere apologies.
regards

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 04:39 pm:

Mr 1

No harm done.
All in jest (in time).

regards
888

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Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 12:22 pm:

So far a fairly good run for Kevin Rudd.

Having a taste of what's expected from John W. Howard’s attack dogs, he seems to stand his ground. Actually looking more like a stronger decent alternative.

He’s getting my vote. That is if my man P. Costello will not have a go for it.

As for Jhoney- ‘ I’m a PM who listens to the concern of the people..’ that’s the spin on his IR wink.

Watch this space especially if this consummate politician(i.e lying rat according to one of his own) gets desperate. Those sickened with the con of the ‘children overboard’ the immorality of the continuous justification of the Iraq invasion disguising it as strength in the face of it’s unpopularity’ – you ain’t seen nothing yet!!!

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Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 08:06 pm:

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