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stoian
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Dear traders!
Young or old.
In God we trust?
Definitions. Obvious like the God`s light.

Risk means UNCERTAINTY.
Uncertainty means UNSTABILITY.
Unstability means DISORDER.
Disorder means VARIATION.
Variation is described by an AMPLITUDE.
The amplitude can be a small one, a big one, or very big.
A small amplitude means great STABILITY.
Great stability means CERTAINTY.
Certainty means no risk or only a minor risk.
When certainty is very big, she is calling ORDER.
A big amplitude by the variation, means disorder=unstability=uncertainty=risk=HAZARD.
When the hazard is big, he is calling CHAOS.
Both, ORDER and CHAOS will be measured in degrees.
The degree in manifestation of ORDER, but also for the CHAOS can be manipulated.
The degree of ORDER is the GOD`S WILL.
But the degree of CHAOS comes through SATAN, so that, they should beleve that the UNIVERSE was created from him.
Both, the ORDER and the CHOAS, and their precise=accurate degree, can be visualized and measured=ESTIMATED through A TRUE=REAL CHART.
A true=real chart, is A PROBABILITY FIELD whitin – both, the degree of ORDER and the degree of CHAOS – are manifesting and can be estimated and FORECASTED in a very precise and accurate statistical and mathematical manner.
Do You know how a true=real chart=a probability field looks?
Do You have heard and learned from someone about it until yet?
When You will learn what a true=real chart is=what a probability field is meaning, You will be allowed TO SEE GOD AND HIS ORDER, AND TO DISCERN THE ORDER FROM THE CHAOS WHICH IS KEPT UP BY SATAN.
THE FIRST is always before the last one.
The last one means the end.
But without THE FIRST it gives no end.

Hey, You! All false teachers! Leave the Kidds alone!
Doru Stoian


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i'll have what's he's got!


stoian
you been doing too many Schroedinger equations
dimensionally these equations should not be chart-like, but 3-D, mostly resembling an egg in shape
so it's curious that we use the Born rule for probabilities in detecting the smallest things
thus the Born rule (literally similar to your precept of FIRST) relates to your concepts of Order
which allow us to see GOD
conversely CHAOS is manifested by dark forces
implying instability and events of great order of magnitude
yet Chaos theory, from Lorenze's "butterfly effect" is born from a most godlike event on a very small scale
moreover, Mandelbrot's set shows chaos to have great order, and is self replicating - the antithesis of variation

which leads us where, exactly?
simple!
if darkness is the absence of light
shine a greenback


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Rederob,

1) Math is a discrete to secrete language, which is using symbols to express a philosophy.
Sometime the philosophy expressed and covered by the math language is nothing worth.
Sometime the by the math language covered philosophy, is from a too great value to be really expressed to someone.
So, I do not understand what do you want from me, with the equations of Scroedinger, Lorenzo`s effect a.s.o.
2) I think yes, Benoit Mandelbrot is very close to the TRUTH, but also so far if you have right with your interpretation of the results of the work of Mandelbrot.
I also think, he needs more FAITH IN THE EXISTENCE AND PRIMACY OF GOD, too see the result of the struggle between good=GOD=ORDER and evil=CHAOS, and that not the chaos (temporarily darkness) is that thing that is replicating itself, but THE ORDER. It is also very logic what i am saying. First, was THE ORDER=THE RULE and ONLY AFTER was coming the DISORDER=HAZARD in different grades, but sometime the HAZARD was so big, that HAZARD WAS TRANSFORMED in CHAOS.
But THE SYSTEM tends from all the times, since UNIVERSE IS BORNING to REESTABLISH THE ORDER, and not to replicate the chaos. But that is the another face of the coin that Mandelbrot maybe shows us, like i said if his work is really that which was published.

Doru Stoian


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Stoian
You chose to put this topic under the heading of "Traders Groups"
I reckon the Back Page is a better place, maybe.
Are you divining a following for your secrete language, which is using symbols to express a philosophy?
If so, a market forum is not a good pickup line.
However, if you digress to the grand unified theory, and can predetermine market prices on observable human behaviour, you might be on a winner.

"All in all it’s just another brick in the wall.
All in all you’re just another brick in the wall."


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Hey all,

Reminded me of a great sign I saw in a shop once:

"In God we trust - Everyone else pays!"

:-)

P.S. This reply would be OT...that is, of course, if the topic wasn't OT already :-)


--
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

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Dear rederob,


I am not an another brick in the wall. I was earlier, but yet i am a single hole in the wall. I hope another bricks will follow me, one by one, till THIS WALL goes down, and together with the other bricks who leaved the old wall like me, to build another wall, more stable, or to remain each brick a single wall in part.

Doru Stoian


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Doru
Wonderful sentiment, but why did you create a new topic in the "Trader's Groups" thread?
I remain Humpty Dumpty on the wall, and will be happy to sit on whichever deconstruction or construct of your making.


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artamon, he even made his son pay
seemed a high price at the time
but the wretch apparently faked his death
and turned up a few thousand years later in a rock band
... the rolling stones
as a tribute recording 2000 light years from home
on an album, titled......
wait for it
can you guess?
(Doru, look the other way)
THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES REQUEST
whoopsadaisy.......


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rederob

Congratulations on 1000 posts so many of them great contributions to IC readers and lurkers.

Regards....macka..


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dear rederob,

The purpose was to see reactions from the "old"= experimented traders in front of such provocations like mine was, reactions that will count not only for myself, but also for the "joung" crude=nonexperimented traders.
I do not have a strong musical culture. Sorry, i cannot guess.
And, as a parenthesis, i cannot beleve that i, we, or our ancestors, was or are today only emancipated monkeys, but with a low=narrow spirit, that have conquest the space with no help from the CREATOR. Do You understand what really SPIRIT is, and do not confound it with the SOUL or the GHOST?

Regards,
Doru







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Doru
Your original post ended with a line from Pink Floyd's "the Wall" (except you added "false".. teacher, leave the kids alone).
I think you know about the Rolling Stones.
You did not need to guess anything as the Rolling Stones recorded "2000 light years from home" on an album titled THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES REQUEST.
You ask about "spirit", "soul" and "ghost".
The forum masters are not keen for us to indulge in religious discourses as, apparently, some forum members may be deeply offended.
So I will turn the table slightly.
My children have no difficulty with the concept of our pet cats possessing spirit, soul and, on death, having a ghost.
Religious dogma may have quite clearly defined meanings for each of you words, tho I suspect the essence our general understanding is quite similar.
Can wherever we came from, whatever we were destined for, dictate who we are today because of the CREATOR?
I suspect we won't have time to settle much on this thread.
May your god be with you.

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