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captain_chaza
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Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 04:59 pm:Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Ahoy sweet SCO Braveheart

As the Charts expand so does the dynamics
I'm hanging in there with ya Braveheart
Ya little GENIUS

XOXOX
XOXO
XOX
XO
X


capn


"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C.

"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate."
Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897





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Time will tell us both Captain if they are worth hanging onto, fingers crossed

Julles







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Ahoy 2nd Officer and Ship's Botanist JustICE

It is time we put YOU in the thick of things

Using your better than average skills in both mind and language we need for you to draft a letter to the ASX drawing attention to their speeding traffic violation code

Ask them why no one gets a speeding ticket travelling South or even South-East?

Is this just a Good Cop? Bad Cop ploy to confuse our mums and dads?
AND bring attention to the few rising stars?

If they only give speeding tickets to the rising stars are they not manipulating the markets themselves?

Tell them that this Captain is not happy!

He would like to see speeding tickets in the Southerly direction as well and even a please explains when necessary?
(IN BOTH DIRECTIONS)

PR is PR I know?
"Don't Kid the Kidder!" as Spids says
We all know a Half of anything is not ONE

Go 'n get them JUSTICE!
and keep us informed

Salute

capn
It is not that often I put the best man to the Right task at hand!


"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C.

"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate."
Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897





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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 10:03 am:Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)




So the charming cc has pulled himself out of dis hole to hob his knob in GENERAL Black Ranges?
Did you buy in again,Chuck?I saw you held BLR for a day last week but then it was jerked off the Manifest.Did you forget? THEY do say it affects memory,hey?

Charlie,keep your school boy taunts for d'Sea Scouts,OK? or I'll have to swing past your tomaine Kaffe LIVE.See for meself if what I'm told is true that you can't keep eye contact but blink,look at your shoes,always do bluster.

I'm regular so not into your kinda lax ative of the boy wid piddly secrets,mon capitano.
so PULL YA HEAD,
in as well,
CHUCKLES
or ya 4 d'Chew.


Dig for it.

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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 10:48 am:Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



and here was me thinking that this was an english forum

all in favour of dug crawling back under his rock - 5 star this post!

all opposed, wake up to yourselves, he is a cretin


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incapable of variation?


Dig for it.

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Ahoy Captain and Crew

I'm sure I'd be upset about what dog.. I mean dug is saying if only I could understand his rabblings.
Dug your not normal..You need some help.

Stampy


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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 12:18 pm:Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Stumped?
go to Feedback/Thank you IC/
happy trials.


Dig for it.

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NOTICE:
RE: Company Announcements:
I read a company report once.
I've never bothered with another.
I have sent numerous anonymous complaints to the ASX about speeding tickets and have never received any reply.
I also find that any impending drive momentum will usually over-ride any ASX go slow warnings. Go figure!

I'm taking the chopper back to shores of the greater FX for the duration of this becalming - or perhaps even longer.
Live long and prosper. I luvs ya forever.


... d'ICE ... :-)

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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 04:57 pm:Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Ahoy Brave and Loyal crew

My sincerest apologies to sea-dog DUGGIE
I started it when on half medication OUCH!
I always seem to lash out at * star bandits when I get a speeding ticket
Please forgive me Duggie?

Ahoy SCO Braveheart
I would say it's time to cover shorts (Generally Speaking)

Hopefully the worst is over?
Crikey !
It couldn't get much worse, Could it?
 capn


"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C.

"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate."
Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897





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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 06:13 pm:Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY

Officer ICE
I just got this signal in from Officer Laffee a few minutes ago

Hi Charles,

A major forex counterparty in the US (refco) is about to go under, I have been told by some london traders that they own a very large percentage of FXCM (maybe all).
You might want to think about clearing your funds out of FXCM.

I have Run for Shelter!!
Sometimes where there is smoke there is fire???

capn


"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C.

"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate."
Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897





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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 07:22 pm:Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Matthew Goldstein
Refco's Bennett Falls Hard
By Matthew Goldstein
Senior Writer
10/12/2005 4:23 PM EDT
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/markets/matthewgoldstein/10246915.html

Updated from 3:09 p.m. EDT


In three short days, Phillip Bennett, the ousted CEO of embattled brokerage Refco (RFX:NYSE) , has gone from Master of the Universe to criminal defendant in a fraud that has stunned Wall Street and ravaged the company's stock.

With lightning speed, federal prosecutors arrested Bennett and charged him Wednesday with orchestrating a brazen scheme to paper over hundreds of millions of dollars in sour debts at the New York company, which sold a $583 million initial offering to the public just two months ago.

In charging Bennett with one count of securities fraud, prosecutors alleged that the 57-year-old executive secreted more than $400 million in bad debts owed to Refco to a separate company he controlled. The debt -- run up by Refco customers over seven years and unlikely to be repaid -- showed up on Refco's balance sheet as a cleaned-up receivable, its connection to Bennett masked by accounting sleight-of-hand involving yet another unaffiliated party.

The company has said Bennett paid the money back with interest. But the damage to the newly public company's credibility has been huge, prompting credit downgrades and a three-day rout that cut the value of Refco's stock by two-thirds, erasing $2 billion in market cap. After closing at $28.56 last Friday, Refco's stock closed Wednesday at $10.85, down another 22% on Wednesday alone.

A criminal complaint brought by the U.S. attorney for the southern district of New York focuses on a series of transactions that took place from 2004 through this month. Refco, in ousting Bennett on Monday, has said the suspicious transactions go back to 1998.

Bennett's moves, as described in the complaint, were designed to disguise that his company, Refco Group Holdings Inc., was occasionally responsible for more than $500 million in debt to Refco Inc. -- a circumstance that under normal accounting rules would require it be labeled as a related-party transaction.

Much of the six-page complaint focuses on a $300 million transaction that occurred in February, a few months before Refco filed for its initial offering. In the transaction, Refco loaned a customer $335 million, which was supposed to be repaid on March 8. That customer, allegedly, then turned around and loaned Bennett's Refco Group Holdings $335 million, charging Bennett a higher interest rate than it was paying Refco.

Bennett allegedly then used that $335 million to pay off his existing debt to Refco. Prosecutors say "the result of these transactions was to substitute" one debt for the other.

On Monday, prosecutors say, when Refco ousted Bennett and said he had made the company whole, about 350 million in euros were being wired into an account in the name of Bennett and Refco Group Holdings. The transfer came from an unnamed foreign bank.

When asked if there were going to be more arrests, Michael J. Garcia, the U.S. attorney, had no comment, but he acknowledged that the investigation is ongoing.

Gary Naftalis, Bennett's lawyer, could not be reached for comment. A Refco spokesman says the company is continuing to cooperate with the investigation.

Meanwhile, Liberty Corner Advisors, a New Jersey money-management firm, is emerging as a critical player in the $430 million accounting scandal that devastated Refco and forced Bennett's ouster, a regulatory source said.

Regulators believe the Summit, N.J.-based investment advisory firm, which claims to manage $15 billion in assets, was used by Bennett to conceal his role in assuming eight years of bad debt owed to Refco by customers, a person familiar with the situation said.

Liberty Corner's involvement in the growing financial scandal was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. Refco put Bennett on indefinite leave Monday after the debt transfer was discovered by company accountants.

In a press release Tuesday, Refco disclosed sketchy details of the scheme Bennett allegedly employed to hide the transfer of the bad debt to a private company he controlled. Refco didn't identify Bennett's company, which TheStreet.com has learned is Refco Group Holdings Inc., or the "third party customer account" that served as straw man in the alleged plot.

Officials with Liberty Corner, which was founded in 1999 by Terry Pigott, a former executive vice president of asset management at Daiwa Securities, said the entity referenced is Liberty Corner Capital Strategies, "which is solely owned by Terry Pigott."

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Pigott denied any knowledge of the alleged scheme.

It's not the first time Liberty Corner has been linked to a financial scandal.

Earlier this year, Liberty Corner Cash Management, an affiliated entity, was fired by Ohio Treasurer Jennette Bradley from a lucrative money-management job. The firm had close ties to a political associate of Joe Deters, the state's former treasurer who got embroiled in pay-for-play scandal. A spokesman for Bradley confirmed Liberty Corner's firing, which was first reported in February by The Cleveland Plain Dealer.

Nobody from Liberty Advisors or Liberty Cash Management was charged in the episode, or accused of any wrongdoing.

Liberty Corner was caught up in the scandal because it employed Deters' former chief of staff and campaign manager as its lobbyist in Ohio and got a number of money management jobs from Deters' office.

The scandal ultimately led to the conviction of three of Deters' political associates, including Matthew Borges, the former chief of staff who worked as Liberty Corner's lobbyist.

So far, Refco has done little to clarify the scandal to investors. As a result, it has been difficult not to draw the conclusion that Bennett's debt transference was a scheme to burnish the company's balance sheet ahead of its IPO.

The company has sought to distance itself from Bennett, claiming only one other executive knew his company was responsible for a $430 million receivable on Refco's balance sheet.

The opaque language Refco has used in press releases to explain the situation hasn't provided much confidence either.

"These obligations were transferred periodically to the entity controlled by Mr. Bennett, and the company's books and records then reflected a receivable from that entity, rather than a receivable from the originating accounts," Refco said. Why Bennett would effect such a transfer was not explained. Generally speaking, a company like Refco, in which Bennett owns a 33% stake, wants to show as few nonperforming loans as possible on its balance sheet.

Bennett's lawyer, Jack Weinberg, declined to comment.

Bennett pocketed more than $118 million in the firm's August initial public offering and also raked in tens of millions of dollars extra from a special post-IPO dividend paid by Refco.

Several other securities industry stocks fell in a weak market Wednesday. Shares of Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME:NYSE) lost 3.8%, while Goldman Sachs (GS:NYSE) lost 1.6%, Bear Stearns (BSC:NYSE) lost 1.8% and Lehman (LEH:NYSE) shed 2.2%.


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Paul,

I heard the news over Bloomberg and CNBC, the last couple of days.


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