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captain_chaza
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Ahoy Fr Hilarius

I follow the BHP ADRs in NY
I noted they Gapped down 1.5% on the open
(Thanks to your Pommy mates)
And then fell another 1.5 % during NY hours
Watching the pommy close is like getting a lunch time quote
Not much point unless you are Sailing the Global Exchange in real time with 1/4 day Candlesticks
Don't you think?

Salute
Captain Chaza
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"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C.

"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate."
Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897





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dear landlubbers and sundry jetsam
the POG has dipped today, but only significantly in USD terms
in euro terms POG is no more than dollar softer, and a few odd aussie dollars shy of last night's close
given the euro has belted down to around 129cents US and kept its pecker in gold terms, there is a ripening northward advance in the making
any greenback weakness will release POG to weekly highs, and a sustained belting will see $445 broken
i am taking a small cue from base metals, where RSI are generally oversold to neutral, indicating a change in the wind is nearby
so long as the tide runs with us this week, a good outcome is assured







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You know sentiment is close to the bottom when a small cap
co like RMS has a hit like this and the shares hardly move
RMS


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not talking the gold or silver up or down
but following comparission charts there seems seems a direct
relationship with the $au since 2000
so as the POG rises and falls so does the $au , with POG gradually gaining over the years
seems the bet being placed on ozz miners is that POG/$au will break this pattern else we could end up in the same boat as SA producers ie high POG but higher $au --- ouch!

strange one rarely sees comments about "diamonds " on PM forums ----- could be the REAL sleeper ??

after all we only need another 1987 with a threat of deflation to get the money supply overflowing


coyotte


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Optimistic
or realistic


MARKET TALK:
Gold Near $500 Around End 2005 - UBS 11/05/05 15:16:00

0516 GMT [Dow Jones]
Spot gold quoted at $427.30/oz, up 80 cents. Market participants focussed on U.S. March trade data, which could reveal immediate direction for USD, to which spot gold remains negatively correlated. Later this year, though, UBS says spot gold likely to advance on USD weakness, crack 4Q04 high of $456.75, to average US$460 in Q405 "on further dollar weakness this year;" expects metal to trade close to $500 towards end 2005, or early 2006.
More immediately, says strong Asian physical demand has supported gold in recent days. (RCB)

Contact us in Singapore. 65 64154 140;
MarketTalk@dowjones.com


Regards, GreatDane

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conservative.....




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Its an OIL thing
Its a US trade and budget deficit thing
Its a Greenspan i dont know what your saying thing
Its a Greenspan your behind the curve thing
Its a terrorism thing
Its a Yuan re evaluation thing
Its a proxy to the Euro thing
Its an inverse to the $US thing
Its an inflation thing
Its a deflation thing
Its a stagflation thing
Its a stock market bear thing
Its a safe haven thing
Its a global gold production down thing
Its a China thing
Its a jewellery thing
Its a Gordon Brown we told you so thing
Its a record high household debt thing
Its a housing bubble thing
Its a GM and Ford thing
Its a WAR thing
Its a Nuke thing
Its a Bush thing
Its a market manipulation thing

Its every BLOODY thing!!!

Finally but not least...

Its a VALUE thing

GOT GOLD

Regards

GB


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gb
printed your post
put it on its side
drew lines across top of each sentence
so as to represent a "chart"
woe betide
gold is going down
please do not ask me to stand on head
for a better view
as feet will not reach
as always


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rederob,
don't want you standing on your head....



Its a WAR thing
Its a Nuke thing
Its a Bush thing
Its an OIL thing
Its a China thing
Its a deflation thing
Its a terrorism thing
Its a jewellery thing
Its an inflation thing
Its a stagflation thing
Its a safe haven thing
Its a GM and Ford thing
Its every BLOODY thing!!!
Its a housing bubble thing
Its a proxy to the Euro thing
Its a stock market bear thing
Its a Yuan re evaluation thing
Its an inverse to the $US thing
Its a market manipulation thing
Its a record high household debt thing
Its a US trade and budget deficit thing
Its a global gold production down thing
Its a Gordon Brown we told you so thing
Its a Greenspan your behind the curve thing
Its a Greenspan i dont know what your saying thing
Finally but not least...Its a VALUE thing...GOT GOLD... Regards GB .....to the MOON


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rederob
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ok
good
got it
this thing
this gold thing
riding to the moon
with every lunar tic


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THE THING!!

An American scientific expedition to the frozen wastes of the Antarctic is interrupted by a pair of seemingly mad Norwegians pursuing and shooting at a husky. The helicopter explodes in an accident, and the Norwegians are killed, leaving no explanation for the chase.

During the night, as the scientists look on in shock, the husky mutates and attacks the other dogs in the camp. The team soon realises that a bizarre alien life-form has found its way into their midst.

In the coming days - more pieces of the riddle are put together. Centuries ago - an alien spaceship had crash landed in the Antarctic. The pilot was thrown clear and eventually froze in the ice. The creature is eventually uncovered 100 000 years later by a group of Norwegian scientists who thaw the creature out. The alien comes to life and proves to be extremely hostile. It has the ability to alter its own cell structure to that of a consumed organism, and thus imitate the victim almost perfectly.

Now the 12 men of US Outpost #31 stand between the alien and total infection of the planet. They must destroy the creature and prevent it from reaching civilisation. The only problem is - can they trust each other - when there is no guarantee the next man is human?


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The latest post seems to suggest that there are merits in investing in companies involved in bio tech research


Regards, GreatDane

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Mr Greatdane....
are you suggesting i should up my dose...
probably a good idea under the current situation

Technically speaking there appears to be a parting of ways with the POG ($US) chart and the Euro/$US chart.
The Euro/$US chart has broken the uptrend line that has been in place for a number of years...it still hasn't decided for sure, but .... the buck wants to move higher....
The POG ($US) chart is still some way off the uptrend line.

These two charts have moved in tandem for the last 3 years.
A parting of company is potentially on the cards..

We have a couple of main THINGS other than the usual THINGS that have attracted the attention of gold investors which should underpin POG going forward.
The North Korea / Iran nuke thing and
The Yuan re-evaluation thing

regards

gb

This is not a recommendation to buy or sell any company that manufactures mind altering drugs...but you could do worse....


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The good news about POG is that with a stronger greenback of late, it's keeping its pecker up.
Tonight sees the greenback hitting on 2 month highs, but POG in euro terms is still holding at $333.33 (actually is 6cents higher, but the 3s look cute).
Even in Oz dollars POG is around mid AU$552 - and holding up well.
What is happening is that physical gold is being purchased regularly on weakness, so the speculators are having trouble collapsing the price.
It's interesting to note that if the current US monthly deficit at $55bn was reported a year ago there would be a flight to the exits: Whereas this year it's a welcome to our party!
The suits that analyse currency trends see the greenback having a tough time in the second half of 2005, so the goldbugs are tipping $475-500 peaks before the year is out.
Rather than bust out the bubbly, I'm going to sit in the bleaches, sip a quality tea, and watch gold slowly accumulate a winning score.
Might post a scorecard at weeks end.


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"The suits that analyse currency trends see the greenback having a tough time in the second half of 2005"

Suits ain't suits.

Dollar set to plunge
By Nicki Bourlioufas
May 12, 2005
The good time could be over with the local dollar set to plunge below US70 cents as commodity prices come off highs and foreign investment into Australia slows, according to Westpac Bank.

Westpac has forecast the local dollar will fall to US72 cents by December 2005 and to US64 cents by December 2006.

"The Australian dollar looks set for a fall in the second half of this year," said Westpac in a research report released today.

"The fundamentals do not improve in 2006 either. In fact, the unfavourable trend accelerates."

"We will see a combination of factors which have been positive over the last few years become negative," said Westpac senior economist Andrew Hanlan

Westpac says a narrowing gap between US and Australian interest rates will slow foreign investment into the country as the return on investments in Australia becomes relatively less attractive. That will drive down demand for the local unit.

While Australian interest rates are forecast to stay on hold at 5.50 per cent, US rates are set to climb to 4 per cent by the year's end and to 4.5 per cent by the end of 2006.

"With the US Federal Reserve moving short rates (up) faster than the long end sells off, there will be another consistent weight on the currency through most of the period under discussion," said Westpac. The pace of global growth is also set to slow, "which is a sign that commodity prices will start to peak out," said Mr Hanlan.

Already commodity prices have eased, which has hurt resource and oil stocks like BHP Billiton, Woodside Petroleum and Rio Tinto.

Westpac expects the huge US current aco**** deficit will stablilise, which will push back up demand for the US dollar, to the detriment of the local dollar.

Westpac forecasts Australian interest rates will stay on hold through 2005.

"We have argued consistently that the March rate hike was going to be the last in the cycle. We have argued that there is evidence that the economy was already slowing and that the household sector would be particularly sensitive to the move.

The Reserve Bank's official communication is now dovetailing with that view," said Westpac.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,15261673%255E1702, 00.html


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Thanks justice
If the US dollar and Oz dollar tank in unison I guess the outcome for POG will be OK.
But I suspect the action will be more favourable to POG imho as US funds will need to look for safety and bolster the gold price by pouring money into it.
Presently there is much speculation on China's yuan revaluation taking effect sooner rather than later.
The tea leaves are clouding the bottom of my cup at present, but the gold leaf pattern on the fine bone china brings a smile.
Sip and be damned!


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Mmmm, dammned! ;-)

In which currency does BHP/RIO negotiate their resource prices?
They are likely to do well regardless of demand it would seem if it's USD?

Cheers.


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Elliott Wave on Gold and Silver
Triangle Breakout


May 12th 2005


Short Term Forecast - The last newsletter included a chart for Silver in a triangle pattern. We have followed the price action into to the apex of the triangle awaiting the breakout.

http://www.e-wavecharts.com/silver_may2005.htm


... out there somewhere ...

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Anyone willing to concede that "GOLD IS DEAD"?


Only 1 Equity trading above the 30 wk moving average


Cheers

Vermante


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vermante

which equity is that ???

not yet dead ... but pushing the boundaries...

regards

gb


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POG just wants some more blatant Dubya/Rice saber-rattling at Iran and Korea re Nukes or the China/Taiwan wound to start seeping again. The glorious "success" of Iraq... There is a myriad of opportunities for more bloodshed and mayhem. Cheyny and cohorts will be champing at the bit. Haliburton, Wackenhut will get more taxpayer bonuses. Happy days ahead indeed for the truly big end of town.


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Goldbug,

SBM-taken over the assets of Sons Of Gwalia -Despite the down draft in the POG , SBM is holding up pretty well

Any possitive move in the gold price , and I would want to be on it.

Cheers

Vermante


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Gold is fine Vermante
The equities are dead yes-nobody wants them-time to start
buying
Commodities will probably take the same path for 1 or 2 more
months-every one will think the commod boom is over-time to
buy again
all the best
---Archer---


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vermante,

i've been following SBM as well...
holding up nicely...bids at 10c...

justice,

your EW charts are compelling, but long term there is a trend line at about $415 - $420...
short term we are nearing overbought...will the buck bring gold down or will the other THINGS you mention be enough to support the current price.

All eyes to the screens....

regards

gb







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Archer,

Historically the 1st year after a Presidential election, on average ,is usually negative for the markets(there are exceptions).

Hence my view the market is looking to go lower.I do not believe the XAO will take out its high this year. The probabilities favour shorting

Any turn around will be reflected in the technicals, so will be monitoring the technicals closely . The technicals help to decipher, blue sky from reality

Cheers

Vermante

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