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goldbug
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mission control.... urgent urgent....

had to abort lunar landing at last minute...

we decoupled from the mother ship and seem to be travelling on our own accord with no problems to report...

as mentioned previously the poo all over the radar is playing havoc and doesnt seem to be getting any better.

mapped new course to mars and should be there sooner than expected...

over and out for now

gold rover 1

440 on the bid







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pos on that gold rover 1
i have you lined up for gravitational boost into Mars orbit
on current trajectory
please lock in 445 setting at universal NNE direction and await further directions - nominal setting to 450 on any short term overshoot
we are waiting for a green light on euro panel before re-adjusting thrusters
mission control out







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Ahoy Officers Buggsie and Big Blue

The Yanks hate a falling Dollar and so do most other Exchange traded equities
I took profits today in non gold/silver/oil related sails
It's always best to be cautious in these times

'bit early to call it a Bull trap Yet!
But
A Good/Bad amount of profit taking at anytime can sometimes bring on some really bad weather and sea conditions

Bon voyage and Gods speed
Captain Chaza
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"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C.

"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate."
Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897





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there is a broad band of weather you are now locked into gold captain
may it serve you well
on your return

europog now over $360
and ozpog $565

and there is more good oil in the commodities thread


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Contra-indicated investing is soundly based when good ol' ABARE chimes in with a low blow:
PERTH (Mineweb.com) -- Despite the strong gold rally of recent days, the Australian Bureau of Agricultural & Resource Economics (ABARE) has come out with the somewhat bearish annual average gold-price forecast of only US$400 per ounce for calendar 2006 on the back of a modest depreciation in the US dollar and a possible hedging revival.
ABARE’s gold price forecast sits below that of many analysts’ estimates mainly because it has taken a relatively conservative view of the magnitude of the widely-anticipated weakness in the US dollar over the next 18 months. Further US interest rates rises in the immediate term and the belief US economic growth will continue to outperform that of the European Union (EU) are predicted to curb falls in the value of the US dollar and therefore gold’s upside potential, according to ABARE commodities analyst Will Mollard.
“These factors are expected to halt the recent decline in the US dollar and, as a result, provide less support for the gold price in 2005 and 2006,” said the Canberra-based analyst, who has also updated his calendar 2005 gold price forecasts (to US$420/oz and A$562/oz respectively).


In a good year ABARE is likely to be as close as 10% to the numbers, but 20% is a safer bet: So on that basis we have a strong likelihood that POG will trade from $460 -$480 at some time later this year, and possibly higher.
In the odd chance ABARE get it right this year, rumours are that they will next year take over weather forecasting from Meteorology.


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continuing strength of greenback and further disconnect of euro from gold price tonight gives us:
europog now over $364
and ozpog $566

silver is in the doldrums

tomorrow's POG should give us an indication of whether or not gold is likely to continue its bull run, or possibly weaken: further consolidation should be seen as "weakness" as we need direction
that said, a break and hold over $440 tonight will render the earlier comment as useless as any other forecast


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"that said, a break and hold over $440 tonight will render the earlier comment as useless as any other forecast"

present direction: NNE
europog $366 and rising
ozpog $571 and rising

funds got the jump on an end-week play and have set the tone early for rises into next week


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Check these out:






Since $US POG peaked out in early to mid May (approx $447), POG in all the currencies shown have outperformed the $US POG somewhat.

This is a significant event and marks the beginning of the next stage in the bull market for GOLD.

Once GOLD starts making the headlines SOON ie when it goes beyond its previous DEC 04 highs .... a matter of WHEN rather than IF... just as OIL is doing at present .... the Mums and Dads will finally wakeup to the fact that GOLD should be a part of their financial wellbeing.

This is when GOLD will find its way into the psyche of the masses, just as its has done over the last 2000 odd years.

This may not happen but he odds favor IMHO a continuation of the bull market in GOLD.

Regards

GB


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Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 10:57 am:

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goldbug
If you can, run a regression on daily POG - euro versus USD prices - in the 3 years to March 2005.
Then do the same for last 3 months and finally the last 30days, and compare the difference.
You will notice the correlations decaying.
I don't expect this trend to last, but it is interesting.

sometimes being wrong is not so bad after all!
disconnecting.............
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POG has already touched $444 in pre-NY open trading today, also notching up europog of $368 - but tailing off the odd dollar for now.
Gold is overbought and clearly in need of bedrest.
However I would not be surprised if the doctor injects adrenalin tonight so that the weekend is available for recovery.
As GB's charts show, we are knocking on the door of new highs in non-US currencies - tho the AUD is letting the team down for now - see below.
We know that when charts break historic resistance the trend followers lose track of reality. Let's keep them fooled a few more years longer.....




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anyone

whats the best way to invest directly in gold other than miner companys or say buy gold coins need help are there any list companys that you can buy gold straight from ????


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bobcat:
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The Program offers investors a unique range of precious metal storage options on attractive terms, under Government Guarantee. The PMCP is the only Government Guaranteed certificate program in the world.

The Perth Mint Certificate gives you legal title to precious metals deposited on either an Allocated (segregated) or an Unallocated (unsegregated) basis with The Perth Mint. The Certificate is in your name and identified by a Certificate number. The Perth Mint also assigns a client code to ensure the confidentiality and security of your storage account.

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http://www.perthmint.com.au/gc/depository/perthmintgoldasx.asp



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I don't know exactly if this is what you are looking for but if you look up a chart for GOLD, they are redeemable preference shares


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would be nice to finish in the red all round on POG
WTIC has already made fools of us
POSse formed - lead horse silver - has colic





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POG had an interesting week, closing on a dip from Thursday, but holding the psychologically important $440.
With the DOW copping a battering at the end of the week we could see a transfer of monies from equities to safe havens, including gold.
Chartwise, the picture is again positive, although to nail the bear's coffin closed a break over $455 MUST happen sooner rather than later (or the technicians will send gold into hibernation).




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after a massive europog breakout, gold steadied and fell back on Monday, dropping briefly under euro$360
that was what the doctor ordered
this morning we wake to europog near $362 and ozpog at $573 - good results
last day of our financial year, but i recall that US financial year differs, so i don't expect the date to influence trading to any degree - instead it will be the Fed decision on interest rates
those following this thread will have seen divergent views on the affect of increase Fed rates - the bears reckon higher rates favour them
we have seen a succession of higher interest rates from 2004, and POG is none the worse
kneejerk reactions aside, POG is most likely to continue to the upside medium term, although the present bout of consolidation in $435-440 range might seem discouraging
more heartening is POG "unpegging" itself from traditional yardsticks, viz, oil dipped last night but gold rose, the greenback strengthened and so did gold, interest rates are mooted to rise and so did gold
gold traders must be wondering what predictive tools they can now use - might leave that one to the imagination, especially the speculators!
the quandary must be about what position to take, and why?
decision making is about going with the strongest case
while i might be a gold bull, i can't find a compelling case for gold, except based on "history"
so i should go short?
NO>
as the case for gold prices declining is actually weaker than the case for an increase, we can deduce the decision not on the strongest case, but instead the weakest
there is a lot about gold that defies logic

at the pognostications sideshow we have goldbug winning on POG, dollars on POS, and whitesamurai on black gold - 24 hours to reorder the world!


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golden circle winners for end of month are:




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POG - testing the faith of its most ardent supporters!. Put my toe in when it broke 432. Appears I will have to withdraw it come Monday



Cheers

Vermante


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Rederob : Your question below, from 25th March still remains unanswered.

Why should central banks hold any gold at all?

Cap'n Chaza "If you come to a fork in the road? "Take it!"

Isn't that larceny?


Keep Smiling

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vermante
gold is not for the faint hearted!
would be good if it just kept rising.......
but


ingot
can you hazard a guess as to why central banks DO hold gold?
i think part of the answer is that central banks cannot be without some small holding of gold as "security"
security for or against what i don't know
but if it's worth nothing to them, then they should simply sell it all off
the answer in part is due to the fact that the price of gold can only rise if it is desirable - and not just as jewellery


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Thanks, Rob.

The paranoid part of me asks : "Who controls the banks' decisions to sell their gold holdings? Are these decision-makers acting in the best interests of National or Global interests?

One can easily imagine a scenario where he has the most gold wins, in the event of forex meltdown.

If any forum member has access to Encyclopaedia Brittannica, either on disc (full version) or the older voluminous sets of books, it might be worth doing a search on the following:

Rothschild bankers (for the Catholic Church)
Russian Czars ca 1918
Shipment of gold from Britain/Europe at this time to assist the Czar in resisting the Bolschevik troubles.
The manipulation of the timing of the shipment by the Rothschild group so the gold would not arrive in time.
Any other historical stuff to do with the real value of holding gold.

But that's old stuff, isn't it? It's different now isn't it?
History might repeat, but not in this way, would it?

I mean, China ia a major accumulator of the gold sold off by central banks, if I understand correctly. Of course, if the mighty USA should ever need some of it back in a hurry, China would only have to send a shipment, wouldn't they? And the Rothschilds and the Catholic Church would not be involved in this deal, would they?

I mean no offence to those of Catholic or other religious persuasion - I respect that. This is purely historical/political as propounded by Encyclopaedia Brittannica. I have read the section, but oh, so long ago now, and at the time I barely thought anything of it.

Anyway, the mighty USA still have tonnes and tonnes in Fort Knox, don't they?

C'mon, don't get coy on me now Uncle Sam. The world relies on you, you know. The gold IS still there, isn't it? ISN'T IT?


Keep Smiling

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Rederob,

It is not a matter of faint-heartedness - It is a matter of risk control. If my risk parameters are breached, I get out , lick my wounds , and prepare for re-entry at another opportunity.

Cheers

Vermante


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Father Ready Rob

Banks hold gold for the same reason that the wealthy use gold for their bath taps

Because they can :-)

Hilarius


I come in peace to share my thoughts and to shine my candle light on possible long term opportunities

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Notice the gold stocks are diverging positively now against
the gold price {;->


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With the exception of BDG :-(

Hilarius


I come in peace to share my thoughts and to shine my candle light on possible long term opportunities

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Archer,

Are they diverging from the AUD gold price? The reaction of gold shares to the USD gold price has always puzzled me when their costs and revenue are in AUD?

Can anyone enlighten me please?

Ken


Price is the leader of the market crowd. (Elder)
Members of the crowd follow the leader and experience the same emotions as each other.
To be independent of the crowd we must not change our behaviour with price.

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POG rising sharply in recent minutes as news of possible London bomb attacks hit airwaves.
a sad way to be on a winning trade


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c'mon goldbug
we have a medical emergency here
d'POG is breathing erratically and occasionally heart stops
i have brought the defibrillator and a vial of adrenalin
can we find a nurse to assist?


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POG got a great boost from the euro a fortnight ago and has since fallen back about euro$10 to sit slightly above euro$353
in AUD terms, the decline has been a less severe AU$5 to now sit at mid$569
is the case for gold weakening?
the below chart shows a steady long term uptrend which is in jeopardy of being broken by POG daily unless it gets a wriggle on
each year POG goes through about 8-9months of pregnant pause, then pops out with a smile to holders of the baby
we are almost there again (ready the midwife)
much of the gold story has its basis in greenback values, so the breakaway price of eurogold is refreshing in the past month, tho short term unsustainable at peak levels (ie over euro$360)
with greenback strength unabated we really should have seen POG capitulate by now, so the resilience of gold is truly remarkable
over the next 6 months a retrace of greenback value is likely, lifting gold once again
by the way, note that high oil and high gold are not concurrent - gold continued to dip as WTIC reached a contract high
but high oil WILL add to US inflation, more and more in time, devaluing the fiat currency
note also that increasing FED short term interest rates have not particularly affected POG, as these rate increases are well flagged and "built in" for the medium term




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OT – Idle Sunday afternoon.

“POG got a great boost from the euro a fortnight ago”

Robert,
In future analysis where the Euro is involved you may want to include the following aspect.


To meet the conditions for joining the single European currency, all citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland must be made aware that the phrase "spending a penny" is no longer to be used.

The correct terminology is now "Euronating".





Quip from "Brain Matters", Sydney University.


Regards, GreatDane

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greatdane
bluebird began a thread for wordplays that this could fit into
love it- bet the Poms do too!
by the way, do the Brits still use "pennies" in currency?

(are the westerlies freezing the beejeebers off you, too, at moment - and that why the hands are idle?)


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Doctor Rederob....

Out patient is showing the classic symptoms of Yanktivitis....
For patients based in OZ, symptoms usually occur during night time (AEST) and can continue through to dawn.... they include hot and cold sweats followed by bouts of hyperventilation which lead to fainting and loss of pulse....

The short term effects of this nasty virus are just that 'SHORT' lived.

The patient usually shows symptoms for several weeks and can appear to be showing signs of recovery but usually get several more bouts of the bug during their sleep and can wake usually in a worse state than before....

Their is no known cure for this virus....just lots of bed rest and a nice cup of tea ....

What has the medical fraternity scratching their collective heads is that when the virus leaves the patient, the patient shows remarkable signs of physical strength usually for months and months after the sickness......

On a side note: Olympic weightlifters have started injecting themselves several months prior to the games with the Yanktivitis bug ..... Prior to Beijing 2008 the Chinese will be clamping down hard on the use of performance enhancing viruses and hopefully eliminating this despicable virus from the face of the earth....

Until next time ....

The G BUG


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Dr G Bug
I concur with your prognosis.
A wee dram with the cuppa is also advised:
More for the state of mind than body.
The POG bug is less virulent this afternoon, but the accursed nybot bacteria are preparing for an evening on the town - i hope it will be benign in the Apple.

Note also that the Chinese gymnasts are being exhorted to contort in brave new movement called "extortion", that will be the big surprise on opening night at Beijing's 2008 premier event.


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POG a touch weaker in AUD and euro terms overnight, tho rallying over US$426 and settling around that number in the morning
a swag of economic data out from the US this week, so let's watch the merry go round
silver back over US$7 and firming after a dose of the collywobbles
i note the IC technicals over the weekend looking for a retrace of POG to $415 - gotta admit it's pretty nearby, but physical buying of gold remains a strong prop to the price for now
maybe the relaxation of gold sales and ownership regulations in China is starting to have an itty bitty impact
whatever the underlying issues, POG has had a protracted period of consolidation and really seems not to want to go anywhere in particular for the time being
perhaps it's just basking in the northern summer, relaxed and comfortable


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MARKET TALK: Fat Prophets Stand By $850 Gold In 3 Years 13/07/05 10:32:00

0032 GMT [Dow Jones] Australia's Fat Prophets defends what some might call radical forecast of $850/oz gold within 3 years, despite possible volatility next 6 months. "We were calling oil at $40 when it was $25 and people thought that was radical," Fat Prophets' Angus Geddes tells Dow Jones. Forecast based on long-term bull run in inverted correlation with USD. Sees interest rates
differential as short-term impetus for USD, with investors likely to keep converting USD into tangible assets against background of unsustainable deficits. Support also coming from historical ties with oil, recent strength against other major currencies, likelihood central banks will diversify out of USD. (JAD)

Contact us in Singapore. 65 64154 140;
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Dr G Bug
Someone left a window open and created a terrible draft.
The patient has relapsed.
Can't even get out of bed to euronate!
Some intervention is needed as the laissez faire attitude is going to be its death!

footnote: Dr Patel has a prescription, but it is as yet unfilled (something about costing only $850 over 3 years) - your advice appreciated


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rederob

The patient is recuperating after a heavy fall and needs plenty of rest.In time, the patient will no doubt recover and realize the full potential gold lovers all round the world hope for.

How ever gold bugs should not be hasty in pre-empting recovery . The best signs of good health is technical analysis which displays a clear upward trend.

Until then , patience is a virtue

Cheers

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Dr Ready to Rob

Our patient is in a critical condition !!!!

Nothing unusual about that ... it is summertime after all.

Probably a good state to be in at the present, tucked up in a warm cosy bed being fed regular meals .. only if my other half would take note.

Medications have skyrocketed in price recently ... for instance, several years ago you get your hands on the OILer pill for $15 a jar, now its 60 bucks ..... can you believe that, 60 bucks and its showing no signs of decreasing. How is any patient supposed to get better when the costs of your basic medications keep going up??

Has the world gone MAD!

Ignoring signs like that will be the death of many, but not our patient RR, our patient has been around and knows what to do ... its been stocking up on medication for sometime.

While on the other hand the masses have been taking their medicine and have not yet realised but are actually a lot sicker than they think they are .... ignorance is bliss!!!

Our patient is expecting a full recovery, but dont expect miracles just yet, it takes time for the virus to works its way out of the system ..

I know this goes against doctors orders but, if you must, I would suggest, as we are in summertime mode to keep your SHORTs on ...

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Dear Dr G Bug
I am quite concerned about the general tenor of this thread and am wondering if we are not, perhaps, comatose or moribund.
The invective splendid of other threads is sparkling, while POG is dulling and senseless.
Can you please recommend me to a specialist whose concoctions are enlivening.
Btw, no needle or drip can be involved, and preferably nil by mouth as the semiotics bite - which leaves a tactile solution, if you get the rub.


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new blood is in order....

bon voyage all......

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"Its always darkest just before the dawn"
This should be the last push down for gold rederob
then the seasonals should grab hold of gold and take it to
new highs by the new year and this place will be buzzing
again


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Dear Gorgonite
POG obeys no rules
While dark forces are controlled by the Commando Elite
Until dawn...
Chip Hazard


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FWIW

MARKET TALK: Yuan Move Bullish For Gold Long-Term 22/07/05 13:52:00 - 0352 GMT [Dow Jones]

John Mesrobian, president of Constantinople Advisors, says yuan revaluation neutral for gold short-term as adjustment "minor" and simply aimed at "getting U.S. off China's back", but over long term stronger yuan to be gold-bullish if it weighs on USD.
Mesrobian expecting gold to rise to $430 then $450 near-term, possible correction back to $410 if USD bounces, than
start "mega-rally" that will push gold over $500 late 2005 or early 2006. Gold quoted at $426.20 vs $425 overnight NY.(JSH)


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gold is up
nuff sed


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Dear Mr Nuff Sed,

For how long though??


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the weeks ahead will be an interesting time for pog .. Tom




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Tom
Thanks for the chart - note that from around August each year we get a good run-up in prices: A repeat performance is suggestive from the MACD cycles - another upswing imminent.
So Dr G. Bug, tell your mate Mr How Long Tho that "a long time" is as a good an answer as one could hope for.


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bulls are gaining fresh upside technical momentum in the short term as well .. will be interesting to see this play out ...




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Tom
POG is holding up well so far this week.....

Dr G Bug
Please take a pulse reading from Bloomberg - I need an urgent 2nd opinion.
Presently Bloomberg have a $6 gap between futures and spot price - generally it's only around $2.
Do you see a problem here, or will POG jump to $335 on NY opening?
Yours
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The time has arrived for goldbugs


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vermante
i love it when you talk technical
nuff sed


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rederob

The fundamentals have been flogged to death(via some bravado and chest thumping) without anyone being the wiser.

Sit back, relax and let the technicals relate the tale .

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vermante
it has been a long journey to here and many would have given up the ghost based on POG's technicals over the past few years
even Mr Twigg's weekly missive has regularly promoted a retest of support rather than a push through resistance
i would love to see you technical appraisal so that more bravado and chest thumping is warranted
nuff sed


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c'mon vermante
stump up with a chart while $450 can still sit on the page
them technical widgets have taken out early resistence and are plumping for a $440 close tonight
please don't make me post a chart coz it will just show tonight's price, then $500, as my technical skills are flawed
plus, the ice is melting on my chest and the bruising is almost passed
nuff sed


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rederob

Too busy watching the cricket. For live updates and graphs visit kitco.com. Enjoy the price rise and good trading

Cheers

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AHOY THERE! My brave and loyal crew

Anybody watching GOLD tonite?
Once again, I find myself a LITTLE busy and watching my back!!

capn


"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C.

"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate."
Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897





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This thread takes too long to load
Maybe only my thoughts should be retained?
capn
Ps Doru seems a nice sort of lad?

(Message edited by Captain_Chaza on August 05, 2005)


"While we stop and think, we often miss our opportunity." Publilius Syrus, 1st century B.C.

"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate."
Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893

"There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate: When he can't afford it, and when he can." Mark Twain, 1897





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Fed rate rise overnight took the early wind out of POG's sails, but the markets quickly recognised that interest rate rises have no impact nowadays.
This is the 10th consecutive rate rise and all POG has done in that time is move sideways, claiming progressively higher lows.
While US markets are showing relative strength I do not anticipate POG will breach last November's cycle highs.
More likely that yuan and euro movements will slowly wind POG higher medium term.
Unless the unexpected happens, POG looks a pretty dull and boring spectator sport for now.


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rederob

What is interesting about POG , is that it is showing resiliance in a low "inflation environment" and strong global equity markets.Is there a message?

Cheers

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rr,
Have you notice that GWB pronounces the word nuclear, nuke-you-la!
Just like H.Simpson does.


... d'ICE ... :-)

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Vermante the message is that gold cannot be manipulated
to the same extent as the inflation figures
-
Justice-Its supposed to be a secret but Prezidente Shrub
is dyslexic
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm


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Bummer eh,
I believe the 'Button' is now triggered by voice command in any language - especially American.

Ice


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d'oh




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Dr Bug
I have divined the charts.
Foreboding.
The greenback is now trending correctly for gold to rise.
The yuan will keep the greenback in check should it play up!
The Chinese are allowing gold sales and gold ownership at unprecedented levels.
The Indians are preparing to trinket their bejewelled populace once more.
The Arabs are trying to capture the lion's share of global gold trade.
The South Africans are striking it hard and reluctant to come back for less than they are asking.
The Eurobloc is desirous of protecting their fiat currency and telling their bullion bankers to pull in their collective heads.
Yes
Verily.
It's all good.
Come September.........
nuf sed


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Showing a bit more than resilience this morning

Should get this thread buzzing again


Cheers

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Seems like there's a lot of new money going round at the moment. At $447 now but still need $455 to go, and it might be a bit rich for this bolter of a run. Calling for consolidation and another shot at $455 in a week or two. I like the lagging silver and expect it to outperform (now $7.18).

This thread about to ignite with newbies yelling $500. The strong heads and hands who have held to this point probably know it will take a few spikes and plunges to get there. Good trading opportunities if you know what to do in a secular bull.


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The chart below gives a clue!
I have circled the breakouts - which the "candlers" will no doubt have an apt description for: On the basis of trends, we should have another 4 to 7 days before the cyclical peak, or in dollar terms somewhere between $5 and $7 higher to go.
However, this chart does not show that gold has now broken above its ascending triangle formation, and closing on January's peak of $456.87 - in other words we are about to re-enter blue sky.......
$500 is now a very achievable target, and with oil pumping regular all time record prices, gold will be dragged higher in coming months.








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I thought I had posted europog and ozpog more recently - but am being diverted by other things!
Europog tonight slightly over $360
Ozpog has hit a remarkable $580 (had noted CRS put in a good week for a change).
See charts posted on 24 June, above, for a close approximation of where we are tonight - the main difference is that the greenback is a bit stronger today than back then. But the trend of a weakening greenback hereonafter WILL propel POG over $450, likely within weeks.
The between time consolidation will serve the precious metal well going forward.

 
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